Tighter regulations or a ban on gas stoves coming?

I suspect you are correct. We are the people who have a clue about science.



Well of course. People who think there might be nuance in the discussion about whether forcing a switch to all-electric appliances have no “clue about science”.

And also of course among those having no “clue about science” were the virologists who pointed out why vaccines for stable, rarely-mutating DNA viruses like measles, mumps, rubella, etc. are generally effective as sterilizing vaccines, and who also pointed out why a proposed vaccine for unstable, rapidly-mutating RNA viruses (like many cold viruses, RSV (been chasing this one forever), SARS-CoV-1 and -2) had no hope of being a sterilizing virus. Even if we didn’t have horses, cattle, rodent host reservoirs.

It’s a bit more nuanced than, “I have a clue about science and if you don’t agree, you have no clue about science”.

I think you’re doing your readers a bit of a disservice.

I’ll add that you might note I gave Charlie’s silly comment a fork; it was because I had a bet with myself that it would elicit some form of “foller der schi-unz!” response.

Maybe something like that is all it deserved, since it was clearly a joke, but still, I’m happy to be right at least 10% of the time.

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I have had five Covid vaccines and I’m opposed to bans on gas fueled appliances.

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If you have a gas line into your house or apartment, and it is capped or simply ‘turned off,’ it’s probably still leaking. A little. Insidiously eating away your brain, lungs, and other vital organs.

Sleep tight…

See? I said it was “silly”!

LoL.

(What I mean is, this is another fortunate example of why people seldom fit into the pockets we’d like to place them in.)

I’m guessing you wouldn’t be up for a trip to Thailand to eat, drink, and see what else might come up.

Huh?

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I actually think there is a risk of the natural gas pollution, but banning seem so out-of-line compare to other risks. There are many elements of in house pollution ranging from furnitures and paint degassing to burning incense and candles. To me, the argument to ban natural gas stove is the same to ban incense and candles and I haven’t heard anyone talks about other in-house pollutants.

As for health risk for children, why don’t we start banning parents from buying frozen dinner and fast foods? Pretty sure children obesity and unbalanced meals are bigger problems. Of a parent is willing to cook a wholesome meal using a gas stove, I am sure it is better for the child than buying a KFC fried chicken meal

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Totally agree.

Keep a window in the kitchen cracked open a little. Most do anyway.

Not a place for germaphobes.

Sure wish Bourdain were still alive.

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Perhaps you have forgotten that the previous administration cancelled updates to train braking systems. The cloud of vinyl chloride was brought to you by the same people who criticize phasing out gas stoves as “woke.”

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If you have a leaking gas line in your house or apartment you need to call a plumber. No, a properly capped gas line does not leak.

Sure, that makes a lot of sense when it -10° out.

False equivalence. Yes, we need to do something about the flood of junk food, but that is not related to the need to wean ourselves from fossil fuels. That alone is sufficient reason to phase out gas stoves.

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Thus far in factual reporting what has been said is that an axle failure was the cause of the derailment, and this seems to be supported by witness reports.

Yes, I’ve seen the opportunistic “exploit-the-crisis” finger-pointing (some of it at Secretary Buttigieg [1]) regarding electronic braking systems, but the facts on the ground don’t point to braking failure.

[1] Because 2 years into the Biden Admin, regulators say there’s still no plan to go back to the older regs. The lobbyists are too influential. As of the day before this derailment, they were actually considering a plan with still weaker standards being promoted by the railway lobby (the proposed rule has been sitting dormant since 2021).

Not that the Obama Admin enforced the regulation, either - they granted execution stays until the Trump Admin took over and canceled it.

So even if it was a braking failure, which seems not to be the case, the Obama Admin wasn’t enforcing the regulation either. So you can point your finger at Trump if you want, but might as well point it at Obama and Biden as well. If it was a braking failure instead of an overloaded axle that should have been replaced a week earlier when it was documented as already having problems.

They all leak, capped or not, a teentsie, tiny amount and those few molecules are coming to get you.

Nonsense! The decisions to 1) burn the chemicals and 2) tell residents “it’s safe” to return home were separate from the derailment itself. The cause of the derailment hasn’t been investigated / definitively determined yet.

Re: braking systems (and electric stoves, engines, vehicles or vaccines…)-- not imposing a government mandate isn’t the same as “cancelling”.

That is simply not true. If you have a leaky cap gas line, call a competent plumber or gas fitter.

No no. The article is about health safety. I am talking about exactly health safety. We do not outlaw parent buying fast foods, which is much more harmful than the natural gas correlation to asthma. Now, if you want to talk about energy policy, there is another post on it which is about efficiency.

Look, you are arguing backward. You start with banning natural, and then look for reasons or evidence to support your conclusion. This is backward thinking. Please start with the facts and evidences.