Cookware Digression and Drift

Cookware seems to generate more digression and drift than other HO discussions. Why? Probably because of several things.

  • Cookware can be discussed in terms of measurable performance (even though it is objective, someone will always disagree with it), aesthetics, value, necessity, and so on.
    *. Cookware is used for (drum roll) making food and is prone to wobbling off course when people pull in their own cooking experience.
    *. Cookware often veers into opinions based on interests, techniques, and collections that are not widely appreciated.
    *. Cookware brings up issues of provenance, construction, materials, etc. that are polarizing.

I may well be a regular offender, but it seems that when someone tries to get us back on topic it rarely goes anywhere good.

Maybe we need a Cookware Discussion and Drift thread!

Why are you worried?

It could have something to do with the personalities of those who like discussing cookware.



Echoing phoenikia - I think there is some bias in the type of people wanting to discuss cookware versus those that are discussing bundt cakes and jam making.

In itself digression and drift is not necessarily a bad thing, it leads to wonderful discussions.

Back on chowhound I started a cookware thread about nothing. It didn’t really work… :slight_smile: People got bored quickly. :crazy_face:

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Is it a problem for those contributing to the threads?

I ask in ignorance as I have little interest in cookware and would rarely open such a thread.

Oh, I think drift is natural and welcome, especially in cookware. Discussion of a pan can be excruciatingly dry if also discussing the food in the pan or its implications is verboten. At one point, Chowhound attempted to strictly enforce such a prohibition, and it came off as uselessly (impotently?) heavy-handed. Very few Hounds actually ever visited Site Talk unless there was a fresh leak of sewer gas.

The irony abounds. First, you posted this OP here, where a very large % of posters willingly fled CH. Second, you didn’t post it where the doctrinaire CH moderators would’ve required: “Culture, Chains, and General Discussion” (aka the Gulag). Third, is this digression thread itself off-topic?

I think discussion without any digression or drift is dry and impersonal. With some, it’s more friendly and social. And people tend to vote with their feet–if a thread can’t be brought back “on topic”, there’s a case to be made it’s played out.

One good thing that CH did was let moderators move good digression worthy of its own thread to… its own thread.

Now, total thread hijacks, I’m not in favor of. So who wants to hijack this thread by asking a real cookware question? :wink:


There’s already a recent thread on the subject of digression and drift - do we need another one in a different location?

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How’s the weather there?

Oh, look at the pretty kitty…


End of discussion and back to cooking.

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And cookware :wink:


What is the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow flying between a less expensive PIC plate and a Control Freak PIC placed 1 mile apart, and which plate is the better performer for cooking said unladen swallow?

Asking for a friend.


End of discussion of what? I haven’t started yet

As the baritone sage Foghorn Leghorn used to drawl: “That’s a joke, I say, that’s a joke son.”


Turmoil in the cookware aisle? Why wasn’t I invited? :pleading_face:


Hi Vecchiouomo,

One huge mistake is the topic “cookware.” A lot better would be practical kitchen cooking systems–far more indicative than pots and pans.

One way to help is actually the way you’ve structured this thread: a good introduction with purpose. I think you still need to get more specific and focused to keep discussions substantive–while allowing the personal stories.

Could you define fun?
I’m feeling the answer is no.
Most of us went to college.
Coming here for lectures is not what I signed up for.
Just my entirely irrelevant and irresponsible musings.
Lighten up.


Sure, bbqboy,

What did you sign up for? What would you like to contribute? Give it a shot . . .

Substance is always the raw material for “fun.”

Connecting it to stories adds the needed personal touch.

Personalization without substance is where trouble begins.

I’ve got more degrees than a thermometer, and the condescending pedantic lectures from some folks drive me up a wall - but I get what I’ve paid for in membership fees. :joy:


I agree with many people’s views and they all capture many important aspects. I think why cookware drift is because of two things. First, cookware themselves often are not the end-all be-all. Someone want to know if they should buy a carbon steel pan or a stainless steel pan. We buy a specific cookware with certain expectations. So these expectations need to be discussed. Or I buy a carbon steel knife but do not know how to keep it sharp.,etc, This is different than I go to restaurant A and I have an amazing experience, here are some photos of the dishes…etc. A restaurant review or a recipe discussion can be an end-all be-all discussion.

Second, it is a matter of perceptions too. When someone talks about their daughter going to college, somehow it just seems less of a jump from when the previous discussion was about growing tomatoes than was about copper core triple layer sauce pan. They are both a jump/drift, but one just seems a little more smooth.

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I totally understand what you mean. I would strongly suggest a main Cookware Discussion thread, and then a Cookware-Fusion thread.