When is the party?
Augh… ooops. There are some vegans that are flexible on honey. If not I’m sure the omnis will enjoy your dish too!
I am reminded of a situation many years ago. My S-I-L dropped into my parents’ house just before lunch. Would she like to join them? With pleasure! So they enjoy a convivial meal together. Some time later my mother realized that it was Friday and she had served meat to a devout Catholic. She apologized profusely. My S-I-L told her to think no more about it. She said that her priest had admonished that it was a far greater sin to insult well-meant hospitality than it was to eat a little meat on a fast day.
So what’s a trace of honey between friends?
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^ I like that!
I was at the serving table, and no one seemed to care. I’m thinking most of two serving dishes of it were eaten, and someone asked for the recipe and took the rest home. There did seem to be a few who appreciated non-meat options, but there weren’t many. I was expecting to be confronted by my vegan friend, as she was serving as well, but she didn’t comment. She brought what looked like spaghetti in tomato sauce. The other “vegan” brought a salad with shrimp.
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I think you have taught us something, shrink. I will chew and mull and snit over some detail of a dinner party, finally biting the bullet and choosing a viable option. And nobody knows the agony of my indecision, as they are just pleased to be welcomed and fed.
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Exactly! That’s what I’m learning. Ongoing.
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Maybe I’m rationalizing, but many are vegans for the environmental impact, and it seems to me much worse to throw out food because of a little bit of honey than to steal honey from bees…
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I was thinking something like that. At the same time , I’m guessing in communities where buisnesses evolve because it makes buisness sense, that must be the point.
ETA Probably not clear, but I’m thinking there are places where you can make enough profit to keep afloat by following all the vegan rules.
Yes, you are. I realize that its not ill-intentioned, and I dont think less of you, but it matters.
There are vegans for religious purposes, too, so unless youxre going to interview them all for their motivations and how far they are willing to bend, the rules are the rules.
It’s no different than putting bacon in a plate set out for Jews or Muslims, or frying fries in beef tallow in India. (And for those with sensitivities/allergies, it’s a matter of health and well-being. A Parmesan crust on an otherwise nondairy dish still renders it inedible for me, for example)
I’m omni, but if I’m going to make a meal for folks who arent, I’m going to make sure I follow the guidelibes to the best of my ability. (And I have…when we lived in Europe, we regularly welcomed folks from multiple faiths, as well as vegans and vegetarians to our home and table, often at the same function )
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It’s good that the ingredient list was placed by the dish so anyone who didn’t want to consume honey could skip it.
This reminds me of the time I realized Trader Joe’s mushroom risotto has chicken broth in it (I hadn’t been made or served it yet, thankfully).
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I wasn’t suggesting to pull a fast one. Just that for some vegans, it may be worse to let food with a little honey go to waste. Inform them of the ingredients, as @shrinkrap did and let them make informed choices.
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Credit @Ttrockwood for that! It wasn’t until I was writing it out, just before rushing out the door, that I remembered honey might be on the no-go list. I had written vegan on the card, so I rewrote it without a label, and hoped folks could decide, rather than me trying to explain why it might not be okay.
Again, WAAY too much time stressing about what turned out to be a small thing in an otherwise mind-broadening experience.
I wish I could think of a better word, but I’m trying to say the “celebration of life” shifted my thinking to more important things than the dish I brought. If you have not been to one, check it out if you have the opportunity ( as opposed to misfortune). It is like the opposite of a funeral.
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Aren’t you gathering to remember someone who has died? Doesn’t sound like something you just pop into if you happen to be driving by.
Most fruits are made by pollination and probably by bees or other insects. Should the vegans ban that too? How about earthworm turning the soil?
Sorry, for me, banning honey and not the rest, it’s not very logical.
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I meant if you get invited to one. I am usually tempted to make excuses.
Of course, not. But i do understand what shrink is saying. It does depend on the personality of the deceased, but everyone has in some way provided joyous moments for their friends and family. It is these moments that are celebrated, zany stories, ridiculous situations, happy vignettes.
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Oh, I see. I didn’t realize people tried to get out of attending funerals (or celebrations of life, or whatever).
Earthworms don’t make or eat the soil. Taking honey is taking food away from bees.
It doesn’t have to be logical. It’s a doctrine.
Pork, shellfish, restricted in some. All animal protein in some. Dairy, honey, other animal by-products additionally in some.
It’s not about whether everyone else thinks it’s logical or valid or what other restrictions must then follow. We can disagree on the premise all day long, but at the end of the day it’s not really relevant to someone who has chosen to follow that doctrine.
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