October - December 2024 COTM + COOKING FROM thread: NEW YORK TIMES COOKING (website & cookbooks)

JAMIE OLIVER’S PAPPARDELLE WITH BEEF RAGU

I remember his ‘rustic’ approach to cooking from his teevee show back in the day, which is apparent in the instructions to “cut the onion into chunks, and the carrot & celery into thick slices,” (I may have taken the thiccc part too literal, as the veg def did not turn soft after just 5 minutes of sautéing. Surprisingly, he had you finely mince the garlic…. :thinking:

I doubled the amounts of everything except for the tomatoes, as the smallest chuck roast I could find was twice the weight given in the recipe. That also meant using up an entire bottle of a $16.99 Cab Sauv someone gifted us, as I had no Chianti inda house.

Of course, a whole bottle of wine vs. 2 cups also didn’t reduce in just 15 min — more like 45 for a slight reduction, so I’m doubly glad I started this totally unfussy, easy-peasy recipe mid-afternoon :roll_eyes:

I didn’t add butter or parm to the pappardelle, as I didn’t think they needed extra fat, given how much the chuck released while cooking, making it already a very rich dish. The grated Parm Reg went on top where it belongs.

Would I make it again? Probably not. We both found the rosemary/orange zest topping overpowering what turned out to be a fairly bland meat sauce, so we’d likely leave it off next time we have the STOL. Not worth the time, TBH :woman_shrugging:

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I love fish cakes with the traditional (in new england) garnish of white sauce and hard boiled eggs.

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Yes, I wouldn’t like rosemary here. Have you made Hazan’s Bolognese? I’m making it for a dinner gettogether in December but I always add garlic, fresh basil, dried basil, dried oregano. I’ll make fresh fettucine to go with it. Can’t wait.

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If the ragú had had the depth and beefiness one would expect after almost 4 hrs in the oven, I think this twist on gremolata might work, but it just tasted like bland tomato sauce with shredded beef & smashed carrots :woman_shrugging:t3:

Mabez I shoulda forgone the maters.

Interesting – I don’t think I’ve come across that yet, but then I haven’t ordered fish cakes out in New England that I can recall`

SPICY CORN AND SHISHITO SALAD

Pretty simple – shishito peppers are chopped up and tossed with corn, red onion, garlic, lemon juice, jalapeno, cumin, cilantro, and optional cheese.

I blistered the peppers and charred the (frozen) corn, and put in a dollop of zhoug in lieu of cilantro.

Very tasty, though it’s more about the corn and the accompanying flavors than the shishitos tbh.

Letting everything meld helped.

Definitely will be repeated, with or without shishitos.

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something like this probably - Ive had it with cod cakes in Nantucket many years ago and seen it elsewhere occasionally. Its very soothing! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dh3PNtXVCvw

Interesting. I think there was a discussion of creamed eggs somewhere here a while back.

Ah, over on the Savory Egg Dishes thread.

I’ve never seen that garnish for fish cakes in New England. I’ve never been to Nantucket, however.

I think the parmesan would have helped a bit as, looking over the ingredients list, there is no real source of umami in the recipe. You might want to add some umami to it (even soy sauce or sprinkle of msg would help)

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If I’d not followed this recipe, you bet your sweet bippy there woulda been umami elements — e.g. melted anchovies to start the party off, and certainly no fucking carrots that only added to the bland sweet-ish note.

There was parm on top. It couldn’t save the sauce, and I was not going to butter my pappardelle so the sauce can slip off of them :face_with_open_eyes_and_hand_over_mouth:

Yeah, I’ll really have to think about how this can be saved for future use. Then the question is: pimp out before freezing, or when I thaw some and make a dish with it… :thinking:

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I would do it before freezing by slowly cooking whatever umami source you are using for 15-30 minutes with the ragu to give it some chance to “melt” into the sauce

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Yeah. I could melt some anchovies and tomato paste, and maybe add some HEAT in the form of RPF (or something stronger).

I wish I could take some of the tomato out, but it’s all mixed together now.

Le Sigh.

Jamie is British and that’s the key difference between British and Italian ragu

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I find with braises you have to be careful scaling liquid ingredients exactly in line with solids. Typically you need much less than twice the liquid for twice the meat. Doubling the wine inhibited evaporation, contributing to your bland results. I would have used tomato paste instead of canned tomatoes, too, as concentration is the whole point of a sauce like this. I’d doctor the leftovers with anchovy paste and red pepper flakes, some freshly sauteed garlic (and/or mushrooms sauteed in garlic), perhaps a dash of red wine vinegar. You could also consider serving it over something that has more flavor than plain pasta (like herbed polenta or rice pilaf) to bump up the flavor. Fingers crossed you can make it palatable given the insane price of beef!

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Yeah, I almost “only” added 3 cups of wine vs. 2, then said “fuckit,” emptying the entire bottle into the DO… which I clearly shouldn’t have :grimacing:

It did turn out nicely saucy once I smashed up the veg with a potato masher (!) & shredded the beef. It’s just devoid of flavor :frowning:

Will take everyone’s advice and SAVE THIS MOFO!!! :woman_dancing:

Haha, been there - although usually the emptying is into my mouth, when I clearly shouldn’t have!

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I think in addition to some umami I would add acid - pepperoncini perhaps a la Mississippi Roast?

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Ya know, I literally said I wish we’d turned that chuck roast into a Mississippi roast :roll_eyes:

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I think my favorite part of that roast are the pepperoncini that have slow cooked in the beef ju !

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