Memory foods that are not in fashion

I had Veal Oscar (veal cutlet with asparagus, crab, and bearnaise) at the Crown Room in the Hotel del Coronado in San Diego when I was in high school (1960s). I ordered it because I’d never had it before, and it sounded interesting, but I remember not liking it. Too much going on, and I’m still not a fan of rich sauces. It’s not something you would see today, I would imagine. Also now the only place I see veal is on old-school Italian restaurant menus (saltimbocca, scaloppini, piccata, etc.).


I still order it when I see it offered, tonight I added scallops to my fish pie. Almost coquilles st jacques.

The most recent version I had was a nice version at a Peruvian restaurant in Toronto, 3 years ago.


I certainly remember the Buttonwood Manor, though I never actually got to eat there until 2017 (in its MJ’s incarnation), when my parents had their 50th wedding anniversary party.


It’s on the menu at The Dal Rae, should you be inclined to venture south to the LA basin.

I love Continental Cuisine, in all its over-sauced glory!


I’m changing this slightly. Memory foods that are in fashion . John’s steak house in San francisco. Est . 1908 . Ellis st. I so want to go there . Looks like a fabulous menu .


I was excited to see a restaurant I like in TO added lobster thermidor to its menu this week .

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You’ll rarely see St Jacques on British menus. Not even along our southern coast. Whereas you’ll find it pretty much everywhere along the northern coast of France. What a difference 22 miles makes.


How interesting, Harters. In a way, I think English fish pie is the UK equivalent of Coquille St Jacques.

I’m so glad I had my trips to eat seafood in Devon and Cornwall before the pandemic struck. When I visited South Wales, we are more lamb and Welsh cakes than shellfish.

I didn’t eat too much seafood on my one visit to Brittany, back in 2008, apart from one Cotriade, and I haven’t visited Normandy yet. Cotriade is another dish that’s not too popular on menus these days.

I’ve not seen Scottish Scallop Pie on any menus before. Looks delicious . Looks like there’s a typo and should only call for 12 scallops, rather than 12 scallops twice.

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We Britons have a funny attitude towards seafood, bearing in mind we are a small island surrounded by fish.

Something like 75% of the seafood we eat is imported. Yet something like 75% of the seafood our trawlers catch is exported. It’s downright peculiar!


Interesting- I’d say 70- 80 percent of the appetizers and mains I order in the UK are local UK seafood.

But I lean pescatarian while I travel, and seek out the local seafood when available.

In Canada, the main UK seafood imports I can find at a quality fishmongers are Scottish salmon, finnan haddie and kippers. Scottish smoked salmon can be found at some gourmet shops in NYC.

Interesting. I’ve just had a look at the menus for three local casual places. There’s mention of sea bass, stone bass, cod (twice) and haddock, amongst the main courses but none of them mention a provenence as to whether they were fished by British trawlers or even landed in the UK.

That said, back in the autumn, we were in the southwest and restaurants were very keen to mention that seafood was locally landed, even down to mentioning the trawler which caught it.

Unfortunately for this issue, most of us live in major urban centres, rather than small coastal towns with a heritage of fishing.


I understand that.

We lucked out with UK seafood at the hotel where we stayed in Windermere years ago. On my visit to Cornwall, I sought out the places with local fish.

When I stayed in Cardiff, we only had 4 nights there, and we discovered chain restaurants, most of which didn’t serve locally sourced ingredients, were our main options on a Sunday night. It’s the same for many suburban midsized cities in Canada, too. It can be hard to find local fish on menus. Where I live, there are a few places that keep local Lake Erie yellow perch , Lake Huron whitefish and pickerel and local farmed trout on the menus, while most people who aren’t concerned with provenance eat Atlantic salmon from Chile or tilapia from who knows where.

Interestingly , 2 flooded former tobacco farms are raising farmed shrimp here in Ontario. Small production so far, a few restaurants serve them.

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