Knives..what do you prefer?

Well, ack-shually, this was supposed to be a xmas present to myself, and my sis was supposed to contribute $50 (back when my fam still participated in that silliness), which she never did.

My comment addressed the fact that I don’t mind the investment, as it is a very good knife I use on a daily basis, besides my Misen.

If someone ends up with a counterfeit for less than a 1/3 of the OG price that’s on them :woman_shrugging:

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Whatever the provenance of the knife, I deplore counterfeiting. Even a brand that rankles yet has somehow managed to build a following deserves to have its brand protected. Counterfeiting also raises more questions than simply, “Does it look, feel, and work as hoped?” At the top of my list are questions about the working conditions and the level of environmental concern employed. Some people avoid products from certain places because of concerns over metallurgical impurities.

…and yes, I realize my own inconsistency in being ok with my no name products, especially my cheap Lyonnaise CS pans.

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would nay be surprised if with AI soon enough the fakes are better than the originals

I really like my new Messermeister small chef’s knife. For an affordable $38 CAD /$29 USD knife, it’s a nice one.

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It could be real, but a out of spec knife.

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Like a second?

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My new BIG chef knife is a second. I love it. I loved the two-thirds off, too.

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Well.

At least we agree that the difficulty of stone sharpening is widely highly exaggerated. It really isn’t that hard. It’s gets more difficult when you start thinning and changing grinds/profile. But you can get more then descent results with sharpening with pretty modest practice.

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Something tells me the fellow in the video doesn’t faff about in the kitchen with a sonnet in one hand and a 10,000 grit Japanese waterstone in the other:

(https://www.instagram.com/reel/DRDbc6Fj81n/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==)

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I haven’t had much of an appetite since my stroke. This perked me right up.

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I wonder , , , what happens to all the meat trim and bread the cook/chef tosses away?

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Dang, now I want a pastrami on sour rye with spicy brown mustard and a half sour!

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Right in the garbage. So much waste. A little hard to watch and I love Katz.

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It was overwhelming.

Yeah. It is sad, but… that is how they operate.

I worked at a carving station in bbq restaurants for more than 2 decades-- I definitely understand the waste issue. That’s why I always made sure everything went on a scale and we could account as well for weight before and after butchery and figure out loss in production (pre and after cooking) and on the line to minimize it-- reconciling portions served with what was being held. We also kept waste buckets to see what people were throwing away. In all areas of the kitchen minimizing waste and trying to achieve full utilization was so important. Turning scraps into gold feels so good!

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As I watched that video it appeared to have started with an untrimmed brisket. Maybe that is why good pastrami is so wonderfully juicy.

Without derailing this thread further-- there is a loss in cooking through rendering whether you trim or not. The cooking technique of smoking and steaming it has a lot to do with it. It is gentle.

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The fine gentleman in the video is laying waste to fat-cap and trim. I think Katz’s used to make a hash out of some of it, the better parts, of course.

For fans of inexpensive knives, found this social media post of mine from a few years ago… I think this was $30.

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