Correct. Bottom and Side is a tart, not a pie. IMO, of course
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I see what youāre saying. 
I consider tarts to be a subset of pie.
Iāve not seen any meat tarts in Canada that are labeled meat tarts. The open faced meat pies are called pies. At one point, some people would have referred to pizza in Canada as pizza pie.
And of course, pizza comes from the Greek word for pie, pita.
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These look good, whether theyāre a tart or a pie
Finally! 
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Coincidentally, I just picked up this cookbook at my Boston-area library today. Only glanced through it so far. Lots of attention to techniques and different pastry crusts and preparations along with beautiful photographs of prep steps and the finished dishes. Some recipes for fish and vegetable pies as well. EDIT: the picture of this bookās Beef and Bone Marrow pot pie looks a lot like the Cipaille in the Saveur article, with a beef marrow bone in the center. However, none of the Cipaille spices, only beef and vegetables.
It will be a while before Iām able to try something. Itās a beautiful book.
Not indexed in Eat Your Books yet, some photos on Amazon.
If anyone cooks from this book, Iād love to hear about it!
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Char siu sou. BBQ pork enveloped in puff pastry. Sometimes you see these in dim sum places, easy to make at home from leftover char siu pork.
Example
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Chicken pies, hong kong style. A typical snack. Puff pastries filled with chicken in a creamy sauce and mushroom, onion.
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Welcome to Hungry Onion, Isola! My partner picked up some beef & pork pies at one of our Asian markets. The sales lady referred to them as āpancakes,ā tho. The dough was similar to pizza dough.
Thanks. Not familiar with this.
Kinda like these:
Actually, more like these:
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Does Bastilla qualify as a pie? I enjoy it, even though I donāt like cinnamon, and I donāt like stuff dusted with powdered sugar.
I once made a variation from a French cookery book, using quail.
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Been meaning to make some (among other things) for ages. I love them when they are spiced right for me.
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Am reminded of my motherās baby-sitting a neighborās 5 year old. She pulled an apple pie out of the oven, broke it open and scooped mostly apples onto the childās plate. With huge tears pouring down his face, he sobbed, āMrs. X. , I didnāt want applesauce! I wanted PIE!ā
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Once, my neighbour brought one from her trip in southern France - Tielle Setoise (squid pie), i am a fan now.
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I love these little pies.
Hi and welcome @isola!
I had these and a curry chicken version in Hong Kong last year ā the crumbly pastry for char siu was different than the puff pastry used for curry puffs.
Do you make them at home? What pastry do you use?
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@honkmanās WFD post the other day made me think of them
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Well itās got phyllo pastry right? So yes!
I find the sugar Incongruent with the chicken, but then I love char siu, so I guess I am a bundle of contradictions.
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Dreadful version imo. Loblaws has a vile version too on their deli counterā¦ both had the wrong pastry, and no jelly. longoās used to have an imported Melton Mowbray as did Loblaws but not seen them anywhere. They must be somewhere! pork pie with picallili, bring it on!!
My Montreal chef buddy makes cipaille every year at Christmas. Iāve not had the pleasure. I love any kind of meat pie. Only ever make tourtiere and Cornish pasties myself at home these days and not very often. With kidney hard to find, I havenāt made a S&K for years (Sharmanās Proper Pies is decent but not quite right) and not finding a prepared puff pastry good enough to consider chicken pot pie - where can I get it in Toronto? Iāve also made steak and kidney pudding but where to get suet these days? An occasional suet pud is wonderful, including the sweet. Not keen on empanadas since they can sneak in the peppers - a bit no for me. Havenāt tried a Patty from patois on Dundas but thereās a lady on Bloor north side, close to Lansdowne that makes a large and mean homemade patty - recommend. Totally love a pie in all its meaty ethnic forms
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Tis a co-incidence but this weeks sees the annual British Pie Awards ceremony. Judging was yesterday with the awards ceremony tomorrow.
The various classes to be judged are on this link. Judging has taken place in the town of Melton Mowbray. Well, I suppose it would be - the home of the pork pie
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