Griddle recommendations

Why don’t you offer your superior knowledge of downdraft range design to KitchenAid. I’m sure they would be appreciative.

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You mean Whirlpool, but that’s OK. You’re just sore because I don’t care for downdrafts.

I’m sure it’s a nice stove. It’s just unfortunate if the stand-proud grill reduces the utility of having an uninterrupted cooktop surface. That error has already narrowed your choices to narrow double griddles.

KitchenAir is one of Whirpool’s brands. I could not care less what you think of downdraft ranges or of me for choosing to have one. However, your pomposity is becoming tedious.

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Be as nasty as you like. Where you show what you don’t know is that Kitchenaid doesn’t make the large appliances bearing that badge. Whirlpool does. So if, in your sarcasm, you really wanted me to redesign your Whirlpool stove’s features like that strange grill, it would be it I’d be working for, not Kitchenaid.

How would you put it? Prickly much?

I once had a home that came with a Jenn-Air downdraft gas stove. The draft sucked the flames so forcefully that it significantly reduced the effectiveness of the burners. I detested it.

I never had that problem except with the small left-rear burner on a low flame. The left burners, when I had them installed in place of the grill/griddle, did blow a bit but it was easy enough to compensate for by moving the pots a bit to the right.

I repeat, your pomposity has become tedious. I don’t know what you are trying to prove. I’m sorry that your life is so empty that you have to criticize someone’s stove despite knowing virtually nothing about it.

What exactly is your problem? You are arrogant, pompous, and full of hot air. You do not know more about my stove than I do. I have really had enough of your BS.

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That’s nice. Do you need help with the Ignore feature, too?

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Nice you could work with it. Someday I hope to have a stove with all the things I like (two or more very high and at least one very low BTU burner and a great oven and broiler) and none of the things I don’t want (a self cleaning cycle and any feature employing microchips). In the meantime, I, too, have learned to compensate for my stove.

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This is a fundamental problem with downdrafts: Either they’re not powerful enough to work, or they disturb the flames. Maxxed out, they also mess with heat management by upping evaporative cooling.

My biggest beef with DD though is they take up scarce cooktop space–which IMO is the reason for the narrow griddle search and the beef over the grill standing proud. On a 30-36" cooktop, there really is no space to spare.

In case anyone’s interested, Whirlpool offers a very narrow griddle for use on its KitchenAid 30" DD stoves. I don’t recommend it, but it’s worth looking at to visualize the problems they’re trying so solve.

I think architects often fail to take appliance selection into account. If the stove is in the middle of the room, you need to plan how to vent it. In this case someone, probably the builder, tried to address that with a downdraft. I wish they had done a drop down hood and run a duct in the ceiling to vent outside. It was about the only aspect of that house I disliked.

Yup. Architects, developers, homeowners, contractors, pretty much everyone. If the question “How much inconvenience will the owner suffer with a DD just to create a sense of openness?” was considered/discussed beforehand, that’s fine. IMO, it’s almost always a higher price to pay than users expect.

Downdraft is energy less efficiency and performance less effective. Bad for the environment may I add.
That being said, it is better than nothing. So if for some reasons, there is no space on the top, then downward it is.

Could be, depending on the circumstances. Unless the location is far from an openable window or door, a basic fan can be a better, if inelegant, fix.

I once lived in a 1940s all-electric house, the kitchen of which had a through-wall fan mounted near the range. It worked far better than any DD I’ve ever used.

Actually, that can be true. A fan with an open window…
Certainly, nothing stop the smoke alarm faster than open all the window. :sweat_smile:

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+1! Allow me to go even further: If some fume-y preps require mondo extraction, homeowners would be ahead making them outside and standing upwind.

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