Alternatives to black plastic utensils

Define “a lot”?

I have and use black plastics. I don’t seek it out, nor do it intentionally try to avoid it.

I just don’t worry about it.

The science to date, to me, does not support a “sky is falling” mentality.

There are many more things that are more (proven) to be detrimental than black plastics.

Focusing on black plastics is the proverbial dropping the boulders to pick up pebbles mentality.

Maybe you missed the original thread

We’re not debating the science here, just sharing alternatives among those who want something else

Here you go:

it is extremely right and proper to debate the “science” behind such claims.
all kinds of people make all kinds of claims - and one is exceedingly foolish to simply accept all of the claims as ‘really true stuff.’

the Delaney Act sets zero tolerance/levels of cancer related compounds in foodstuffs.
that was 1958 - and “science” has advanced now to the point things can be detected at the parts per trillion level. virtually everything on the supermarket shelf violates the Delaney Act, as can be currently measured.

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and another OMG!!! bit surfaces:

Well, it certainly doesn’t support panic or wetting ourselves. But if THAT is the standard, who needs standards?

Given the chemistry and the now-documented path of BFRs making their way into the recycling stream and into food-contact products, I believe it’s prudent to avoid black plastic utensils and storage containers. That’s all.

Conversely, just because someone isn’t alarmed by the prospect of ingesting chemical compound X has zero bearing on whether that ingestion is safe.

It hasnt been a hard choice for me because the most recent black plastic utensils I have purchase have been shitty in quality, melting, etc, sugggesting they are inferior products (vs the nylon I started with). Although I tend to save plastic storage containers obsessively a REASON to throw some of them away is a good thing (admittedly reusing plastic containers at all is found to be a bad idea by many) for me and my closet space. I think the whole realm of plastic recycling is fraught with inconvenience and potential risk from microplastics, etc. Just putting more of them in the regular garbage - including the black items. - insteading of obsessively cleaning and recycling them - satisfies me quite a lot!

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You misread what I wrote

This thread is people sharing alternatives to black plastic utensils

You don’t need or want that, there’s another thread

Scientific proof is a funny thing…much like Shakespeare said about the Bible, people ultimately twist things to their beliefs even if the science is there. At certain point you have to draw your own conclusions and choices.

Plastics are synthetic man made products that have only been in wide existence since the post WWII era. Common sense says synthetic materials that degrade are not good for people, animals or the environment because they are not natural. Common sense also says don’t eat synthetic materials unless it’s medication and has gone through testing…even then be cautious.

If you don’t believe in the scientific evidence, go chop up a plastic bag and eat it. No way it’s bad for you…so do it everyday for 10 years. Can’t be any worse than black plastic cookware…right?

Even if the science isn’t locked down, there’s enough of it to follow common sense and avoid plastics of all kinds.

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Have we reached the “fluoropolymer debate” stage of black plastics? (Side Note: It’s not just BLACK plastics that have been found to contain BFRs)

Maybe. The lightning that sparked the latest blaze may only have exposed one mountain’s summit. The lead-in was the link between recycled black plastic and its unavoidable adulteration with BFRs.

Are you saying that these bromelated compounds are in recycled plastics of other colors?

Absolutely. Black plastic has been the study focus primarily because electronics casings are (typically) black, and they’re commonly produced with flame retardants (because of their use application), so they’re known to contain high levels of FRs (and, thus, easy to track in a study). But any other color of plastic that “needs” to be fire retardant (e.g., automotive plastics) will also contain BFRs.

So, unless a plastic utensil that is for food contact is certified virgin or BFR-free, the same risk exists across the whole spectrum. I guess the hopeful news is that the BFRs, now banned, will become less likely to be in the recycle stream as time passes.

Talk about fouling our own nests!

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The thing about certifying anything “XYZ-free” is there’s another component around the corner that scientists haven’t researched “enough” yet, and no one is going to disclose until it’s been associated with enough cancers or disrupters or whatever two decades later.

Whack-a-mole with our lives and the planet, protected by lobbyists and paid studies to deflect attention elsewhere or convince people it’s being blown out of proportion. (Just reading the dubiousness of some folks even on these threads is proof that obfuscation is more successful than not.)

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If anything, I’m even more cynical than you are. “Deny, Delay, Defend” is a mantra shared with Big Chem. Except you can add: "Ultimately, consent to a decree, and then delay THAT as long as possible until there are new, untested (but already tested by Big Chem) toxins to take the place of earlier poisons.

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Fabulous. Ordered the 5-piece set in flaming red, which is a perfect match for our kitchen walls :heart_eyes:

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Pretty pleased with it overall, especially for the price. They have nylon cores. The spatulas are a little firmer/less flexible than I’m accustomed to, but happy with this Target Figmint set nonetheless.

Returning. Not especially functional. They don’t open wide enough.

All of mine are red!

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They’re on their wayyyyyyy :partying_face:

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