Of course, and you recognize that it’s a continuum. Frequently there’s some sketch and ick. This is not uncommon even in inner city chain fast food places.
Coming up on a year ago, I did a very positive review of this place: Soundview "Bar & Grill", Everett, WA
It’s a prime example of the value of not prejudging the “cover”, but I admit some trepidation about entering. Totally welcoming, comfortable, and excellent tavern food. Frankly, that’s been a near-constant in my experiece with “biker” bars.
Wahine and I have a routine where we’ll go in anywhere and everywhere. If the vibe isn’t right, we’re ready to pirouette right back out, but almost never is it from the sketch or ick quotient.
I have a favorite beer place that taps rare-around-here-barrels of Goldilocks pilseners… An inside joke about the place is that the mens’ room is some rare mix of filthy, acrid and graffitied (the ladies’ room is kept immaculate and with fresh flowers). I have a buddy who refuses to go back, because he doesn’t appreciate the joke. His loss.