The Big Ole NJ Steak Thread


Mom picked me up a porter on thursday and I cooked it up over at my parents that night. Not a great steak but at 6.99lb on sale it got the job done. I duded it up with my latest rub combo which I’ve been enjoying. Both of these seasonings go together really well together on a gas grill. I like to cook on wood but it isn’t always an option. This combo gives me some good flavor on meat that isn’t the best grade. It’s a coffee rub and the second is some hickory salt. I like it and made my dad a ribeye the other night using this. He was impressed with the flavor profile. I’ve been using this combo for a few months now. It’s not overpowering and goes well on propane.

This steak must look like total garbage after seeing the stuff @Google_Gourmet posted lol. It’s 6.99 a lb so forgive me guys :slight_smile:

(Junior) #620

When you say coffe, you are mixing it with those rubs? Regular, decaf or espresso?


Production probably struggles to meet demand.

Years ago, we air freighted Snake River Wagyu and Berkshire pig to Singapore weekly. Our importer distributed the meat to a couple of 5* hotels that were running an ongoing premium American meat promotion.

Our suppliers would short our order every freaking week. Often, they would deliver only half our purchase order. We were only ordering a few hundred lbs of 4~5 cuts, not a containerload qty.

One summer was particularly bad. A severe heat wave lingered over our hog supplier’s production region, the piggies were off their feed. In turn, they couldn’t reach slaughter weight so the supply chain came to a standstill.

Similar problems affected the wagyu. Our importer would rant an rave and send copies of their hotel’s lavish promotions for the beef and pork that their walk-ins were out off.

The situation was very embarrassing for the entire supply chain. But, what can you do? You can’t make meat out of raw materials. At least, not yet.

(Retired !) #622


That rub in the picure is the coffee rub. I do make my own though. It isn’t too hard buto the bottle stuff works nicely and I simply add hickory salt and sometimes smoked paprika. The first time, many years ago, when I heard about coffee rubs, I was really turned off. It took me maybe a year to try it and it is a great flavor. In fact, if no one told you that it was a coffee rub you probably wouldn’t even guess. It’s very low key. It does make the steak dark and I have had it on some wings too with a bourbon glaze.


Yeah I hear where you are coming from. That’s why I would position this as the elite beef in the US. Think of the bugatti or koenigsegg of beef. People who want to be seen will buy this stuff at a few high end restaurants. Christ, I see “kobe beef” hotdogs shoved in the corner of my local grocery store. Lol

It’s about creating a brand, a stigma, and delivering the best money can buy. I think it can be done but the Japanese have to have balls and they have to realize they can command more money here in the US market.


A part of me dies whenever I see Kobe hot dogs or hamburgers listed anywhere. WHY!!!

Said like the poor person that I am. sigh

(Retired !) #626

Tonite we detour from the far east to return to the reliable Itchibum number one NJ Choice Strippers:

These lovely ladies are accompanied by panko breaded shrimp, twice baked taters, and an arugula gorgonzola tomato salad in balsamic dressing.

Monmouth, where the Surf meets the Turf !

(Mr met) #627

I’m constantly jealous of your tomatoes. Obviously the other stuff is great too. But your tomatoes in every picture look insanely good


I just assume he’s using the tomato filter.

(Retired !) #629

Tomatoes are like advocados. You have to buy them 4-5 days before you’re going to use them.

Then never, ever, put them in the fridge. They will get ripe, even in winter. It just takes time.

This latest batch were Roma’s from Best Market in Holmdel, and were especially good. Their tomatoes tend to be a little riper than other store bought, so you have to use them faster.


Glad you posted the photos. Saved me from having to ask what a “shrimp and vodka cocktail” is!

(Joon) #631

Kenji did a whole tomato fridge article, in case anyone’s curious.

(Retired !) #632

Yeah but he refrigerates after they are ripe.

I eat them when they are ripe, so nothing to refrigerate.

There’s a lot of stuff that guy does and says that is just plain silly. Refrigerating after they are ripe means you loose aromatics.

(Retired !) #633

Interesting article here on Kobe vs. Wagyu, etc.

At the end of the article the chef says that for larger steaks he does not prefer Wagyu:

“In Japan, you might be getting your wagyu served sliced, dipped in a light broth like shabu,” Walzog says. “That’s how you would eat it. An eight-ounce [wagyu] steak is going to be overload. Guests come in here and want 16 ounce Kobe ribeyes. But just because you can, doesn’t mean you should.”

Even though Apfelbaum has the most expensive imported steaks at his fingertips, at the end of the day, he prefers USDA Prime. “When I eat a steak, I want to actually be able to eat a steak,” he says. “Miyazaki is so rich, I can have just a couple ounces of that, and I’m good. If you get the stuff with a BMS of 12 [the highest marbling grade], it’s so white it can look like a piece of lard.”

(Junior) #634

“That’s how you would eat it. An eight-ounce [wagyu] steak is going to be overload”

Exactly what I said…

Exactly what I said…

Well, well, well…look’ s like Notjr here is the idiot savant after all !

(Joon) #635

No one has ever doubted your idiot savant-ness!


Can’t imagine why this post made me think of all of you…

(Retired !) #637

That looks like enough for @NotJrvedivici but then what is @corvette_johnny going to eat?


Wowzers! Nice one curlz! I need that thing in my life lol