I haven’t watched it yet.
Not yet. Just watched Ep 8.
Well, we watched it all. I probably hated the beloved episode 6 the most - which is a shame, given the stellar (guest) cast. Too loud, too hysterical, too much. Like the first 2 episodes, if screaming at and over each other is supposed to convey “drama,” it didn’t do that for me. I just found it annoying.
I probably won’t be watching the third season.
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Though I watched all of the first season, it quickly became hatewatching. I have no interest in watching successive seasons.
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Unlike you, I’m a fan of the show, but not of this episode. I thought it was just too OTT, and JLC so thoroughly chewed the scenery, there wasn’t much left.
I need to give it another shot.
Maybe this is TMI but I am familiar with how dysfunctional family dynamics can be and lots of screaming and breaking of things happen. So while the episode was a bit on the extreme side I thought the episode presented a realistic picture of a dark scenario. There’s a reason why the holidays can be very stressful for some people.
I am sadly quite familiar with dysfunctional family dynamics, particularly during the holidays.
Still thought it was way over the top, and not just that episode. It seemed like the only “stage” direction was to yell at lot. Meh.
Agree, and especially if there is undiagnosed — or untreated — mental illness and/or addiction in play (which they seemed to be trying to weave in as a family pattern as well). Not OTT, just very dysfunctional and sad.
Yeah, they really seemed to be trying to weave in All The Things, for sure - including the ‘dramatic’ cliffhanger of the shunned GF. What a troubled, misunderstood soul that poor Carm is.
I just saw this ad in the NYT. Isn’t that “The Bear” guy?
At the bottom it says it’s Jeremy Allen White.
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He has been working out a lot for that wrestling movie.
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Oh. What a muscular birdie! Too bad I’m already taken 
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I loved him in Shameless.
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that ad is all over the 1st page of the new york times website. at the top of the page, and a few more times as you scroll down. wonder how much that placement cost calvin klein?
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I wanted to like that show so much, as I am a huge fan of Bill Macy, and the plot sounded down my alley. Couldn’t get through past the first episode.
CK has, historically, been happy to splash out for centrally located ads (e.g. prominent print positions, Times Square billboards) for men’s underwear featuring a hot commodity (so to speak) of the moment. And given how little return there is on online ads, that placement may be a relative bargain.
It reminded me that I have yet to watch the last season of The Bear.
Maybe you gave up too soon?
I liked that the characters were very distinct, very different from each other.
William H. Macy really makes that show and his daughter, Fiona, is excellent.
I loved him in a show about a real person, a Fuller Brush Salesman who didn’t give up.
I liked Six Feet Under and Orange Is the New Black even more.
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I felt the same way, wtf is this?? My sister talked me into giving it another try and I grew to love it.
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