Tea or coffee?

A friend says that iced tea causes a lot of micturation. I never noticed because I drink gallons of iced tea daily, so maybe

Why not both? With breakfast, I have two mugs of tea then switch to coffee for the workday.

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Still home roasting coffee beans. Recently beans from Peru, Guatamala , Honduras, and Ethiopia

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Tea rolls with me wherever I may be. That’s a consequence (benefit?) of having lived in East Asia for a few years. Particularly entertaining were at Hui cuisine holes-in-the-wall in China, where pitchers of black tea containing flotsam of vague provenance kept company the rarely cleaned dining tables.

Coffee is only after a long-haul flight, or for when I get two hours of sleep … generally the day after a long-haul flight.

Either tea nor coffee can really help me to stay awake. I just need nap at the end.

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Great question. I used to like english breakfast tea with milk, 4-5 cups a day. Now I really don’t like breakfast tea at all. I prefer black coffee or some kind of Chinese or Green tea (with no milk). Funny how times change

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How about brewed cacao? Crio popularized it this century, and I couldn’t get it out of my mind, but I didn’t want to pay the $30+ for ground cacao. I found out from the company that it is ground coarsely, so I hacked it by ordering cacao nibs and slightly grinding them in a blade coffee grinder. (You definitely wouldn’t want to do this in a burr grinder, as the cacao butter would gunk it up). One of the brew methods Crio suggests is a mokka pot, so I did that, added a little sugar, and topped with steamed milk and foam. Voila, cacaocinno!

It’s actually pretty tasty – like a thin hot chocolate.


I wonder if this is at all like what they were drinking in the Americas years ago?

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I remember reading the original cacao that the Aztecs drank was bitter, unsweetened.
I seem to remember it was the Dutch who decided to add milk and sugar.

Have you tried bicerin (bicerin hot chocolate made with coffee, not Turin bicerin coffee without chocolate), a little shot of hot, thick hot chocolate? It’s popular at Soma, a chocolate shop in Toronto.

Soma also sells packets of their drinking chocolate which is thicker and richer than most commercial hot chocolate.

The internet mostly is focused on the coffee only type of bicerin.

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I’m a pretty devoted coffee drinker. I like the taste of it and usually drink a strong brew in the AM with a little half-and-half. Irish coffee or Bailey’s coffee for after dinner.
That said, tea is the perfect accompaniment to a Chinese meal, especially oolong or what is called “restaurant tea”. A cup of Barry’s tea with a splash of cream tastes good with cookies or biscuits. And I often make homemade iced tea with a variety of flavors, most recently a combo of black and raspberry herbal tea. Iced green tea with lemon is particularly good on on hot day.

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Coffee in the morning and tea later in the afternoon. Herbal tea in the evening. No additions to any of them except for the rare occasion that there’s a craving for a latte.

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I’ve never heard of it!

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I have only ordered it.
Here’s a recipe

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I love coffee and tea and have them many ways, but morning would be unimaginably horrid without a pot of French roast, consumed black. While I love cafe au lait, I need to wait until the first pot is gone and have it as breakfast dessert. However, if breakfast were croissants or hard rolls and apricot jam, a cafe au lait would be lovely. I usually have espresso in the afternoon, black or with a tiny bit of sugar and gulped, not savored, but last night I made affogatos for dessert. That is a great summer dessert. As for tea, I live in Texas and iced tea is ubiquitous. I prefer an Arnold Palmer if the lemonade is decent. Afternoon tea, had more often in the cooler months, varies among a dark tea like Assam with milk and sugar, Earl Grey with lemon, and my great grandmother’s preferred blend of two parts oolong and one part gunpowder, lightly steeped. I love a good Darjeeling but rarely think of it. I am not a fan of most coffees and teas offered in restaurants and offices and accept it only if I need to stay awake. If it is Keurig or the like, being drowsy is the better choice. Oddly, I like American coffee with greasy spoon breakfasts.

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