Survey: CHOWHOUND or not CHOWHOUND?

We did have a couple threads here, including a single LCK discussion thread, but I think the threads for the actual TC episodes died off after Ep. #3.

Thanks, it kind of fell on my lap. Old company is going through the death knells.

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Yes
Yes, but I check CH occasionally. The boards I frequented have nearly zero activity if Iā€™m searching correctly.

Regional - Texas, UK, NYC

Can you share the link?

Edit: ok, nvm, I suppose this is the one:

  1. Yes
  2. No, about equal time
  3. Right now Iā€™d say the ā€œcookingā€ section here but Iā€™d like my regional board to have a bit more action (one day! I wish!). On chowhound Iā€™m almost exclusively on my regional board (I sometime roam the cocktail board but very rarely). The new structure of chowhound is hell to navigate so I stick with the categories I had pre-change.

boardreader.com has some interesting statistics:

oh. no can upload .jpg?

well. goto boardreader.com and enter chowhound.com then reset graph to Month.

boardreader disavows all links, any like I post gets refused as a ā€œbotā€

  1. Yes. But I only posted on CH infrequently for about a year. I was really keen on egullet (as ingridsf) until the moderating changed around 2006.

  2. Nope, not much interest in CH. It feels like a supermarket ad circular with a shrinking listserv tacked onto it.

  3. Regional (Bay Area), eating, media. Also posts that walk that razorā€™s edge between etiquette and True Crime fiction (ROZ!!!)

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There were also articles in Seattle, SF and Boston publications iirc.

Every time I read the Leff take on the CH changes I just shake my head in wonderment: ā€œDie-hard Chowhounds have made do amid duress since the dawn of the site,ā€ says Leff, the Chowhound co-founder. ā€œBad interfaces can be helpful; they filter out the Olive Garden set. The emigrĆ©s will make room for new blood, fresh perspectives and a new crop of chow tips. A bit of churn in a nearly 20-year-old online community might be a good thing.ā€

I guess thereā€™s no way to make changes in a way that preserves the best of existing experiences while achieving the goals required by the change. At least not on CH. I think, though, it seems to be a very subjective thing that winds up being measured very objectivelyā€¦ if you get my POV.

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Iā€™ve never been this late to a party than I am to this one. Hereā€™s hoping everyone hasnā€™t gone home.

  • Yes
  • Yes, butā€¦ I still read & contribute to COTM, Menu Plans, & Cookbook threads. I prefer being here.
  • Home Cooking/Boston/New England/ a few international boards.
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I understand how he could well be wedded to the site he founded and want to defend it, but boy oh boy is ā€œBad interfaces can be helpful; they filter out the Olive Garden setā€ a snotty, codescending thing to ay

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I particularly enjoyed this. Classic pretentious tosh from the man - much in line with the truly awful ā€œChowhound manifestoā€.

As someone who has eaten at Olive Gardens and enjoyed the food, Iā€™m only assuming, by the context, that Leff intends this as an insult towards people like me. He really is a complete arsewipe.

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Leff got pretty desperate in defending what was left of his Site this past fall. He told the remnants how they were better off with the ā€œmini-celebsā€ leaving. Quite funny, considering, as the original Kim K he was using his ā€œcelebrityā€ status to lend authority to the assertion.

His beard metaphor - shave it and it grows back thicker - was so wrong, that I thought he meant it with a tongue-in-cheek irony at first. When Jim kept repeating it, I realized he actually meant it. Facts concerning human facial hair growth be damned, I guess.

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And this is what he got called on the carpet about. The condescension of putting down the very people who helped his site survive through the lean years was the biggest Eff You Iā€™ve seen (including Georges and Marcyā€™s comments on the site change).

VERY good analogy. And one he couldnā€™t refute. Thereā€™s a point where even he has to realize the site sucks now due to the mini-celebs and droves of non-celebs who left the site. Heā€™s just going to realize it WAY later than those who left the building way before he eventually does.

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  1. Yes, but I spent less and less time there.
  2. First visit to this site.
  3. Home Cooking. But I liked being able to get regional tips when traveling, and cookware and other topics in CH were useful. Also I enjoyed Supertaster videos and was sad when he was canned.
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My first reaction was a simple WTF!!! But Iā€™ve read pieces in his blog and Jim is a pretty complicated guy, so who the hell knows.

Amongst his many professions, heā€™s a writer. A good one, IMO. But that also led me to believe he knew EXACTLY what he was saying, and was verbally (in writing) flipping the bird at any of us who chose to take issue with how we were treated. Yet again, the people who stuck around and donated to his site when he was going under due to server costs.

He has his opinion; many of us had ours as well, and we chose to leave a site that was no longer user-friendly. Hell, CH was more user-friendly when I joined way back in 2000 or so, even in its antiquated version.

CH requires people to contribute the content. Letā€™s see if todayā€™s newbies are willing and able to provide the content that the site was known for.

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That particular quote was exceedingly foolish in my view. I was on CH for only about 6 or so years but left because the gestapo was axing some of my favorite posters. Who wants to hang in a place like that?

Iā€™ve only read a few of the 239 posts - Iā€™m glad to see this place is so active - and am heartened that others were banned. I thought I was the only one. I canā€™t remember the offense, but donā€™t think it was criminal.

Sadly, when CH was the only game in town, I promised - brrrr, sounds very pre-WWII - to behave and they let me in under a new id.

Iā€™m looking forward to Jim being the last one there to turn out the light.

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