"Summarize" function

If I’m not mistaken, @anon32378908 hasn’t left the building, just simply become anonymous so that they are impervious to the summarize function? This seems like a good solution, given their misgivings about AI. Or maybe I’m dense and they’re truly gone.

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Yup - I had replied to @anon32378908 prior to the switch - I remember recent posts from the other name that are now the anonymous name.

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Interesting - how does this feature impact spam fighting exactly?

@mig In my (uninformed) mind, spam filters are already a form of AI. But @hungryonion is most definitely more tech-savvy than I am.

I think figuring out the pros and cons of AI for this site will take some time. I work in drug discovery/biotech/pharma and my husband is a physician at a major teaching hospital in Boston, which all have a lot at stake, and even those fields are still trying to figure out the role of AI.

I think in the meantime, perhaps limit personal information you share on public forums, even here, which I consider a safe space. But this is why I don’t add our names or those of people that I know, and anonymize photos of my kid when I post them. Frankly, I worry more about AI for my almost 11-year-old kid than I do for myself or B.

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In short, don’t know yet. I haven’t seen myself a single flag about spams since the spam catcher ability is turned on. So I am not sure how it works, or if its even working.

But my guess is the models probably gives the posts a score, ranking the factors laid out below and if the threshold is exceeded then flag.

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I did a little digging over on Discourse and it indicated the “Summarize” feature had nothing to do with catching spam posts, only that it might (if you use the feature) reduce their prominence in the summarized results

Those are two separate functions.

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Looks like we lost an active, beloved member who made some aMAZing food.

A real shame.

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Can anyone summarize what has happened here?

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I see what you did there…. :wink:

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bit of a severe over-reaction, in reality . . .

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We all are entitled to make our own choices. She will be missed.

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She is missed already.

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Yes. Since she left.

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Appreciate this thread. I can understand why for a valued member our community chose to opt out. I will miss that person very much.

I’m not okay with the enormous environmental impacts of AI, either. Every time I open up an app I haven’t used in a while, or attempt a customer service interaction online, AI is being pushed at me. Usually, without my consent.

Depending on whether or not it’s possible to be part of this wonderful community without the AI impacts, it’s something that might cause me to opt out as well.

Thanks for allowing me to share my perspective.

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the “invention” of AI is completely irrelevant to information being ‘scraped’ off of public forums / boards.

long before AI was even dreamed about, ‘scraping’ information is precisely how the multitude of “search engines” worked (and still do…)
Google is the most intrusive of all - in forums where I have detailed insight, there are 25 to 200 (search engine) “bots” crawling the place at all hours of the day and night.

when you run a search, you get many to billions of “hits.”
“AI” simply does a word count of all those ‘hits’ and spins it into a ‘summary.’ the ‘magic’ of AI is not getting the information, the magic is in writing the text incorporating ‘info’ from sites with the highest ‘search word’ counts.

“AI” - which is definitely artificial and definitely not intelligent . . . as the legal profession is painfully learning. lawyers have used AI, it ‘invented’ cases and outcomes that do not / did not exist, and presented that as ‘case law’ to judges.
not working out all too good . . .

AI’s downfall is: it assumes everything posted on the internet is true.

if anyone is worried about having their recipes ‘stolen’ - ‘AI’ is a totally irrelevant to that concern. if the recipe has been posted since 1995 or so, it’s already been scraped and catalogued by the (many) search engines.

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My understanding is that the type of data collected by AI vs search engine companies/approaches is different - AI-related work is looking to scrap all available raw data from webpages vs “classic” search engine companies/approaches are less about collecting all the raw data but user queries, web page indexes, clicks etc

there are posts on the web.
AI cannot distinguish any specific post from any other post also found by search engines. they are “text” - that’s it, nothing more.

currently AI attaches no more ‘importance / truth’ to a post on headaches from Johns-Hopkins than a post by Dr. Mercola.

AI does absolutely nothing more in gathering data than any other search engine.
AI creates a “summary” based on the query entered.
for the same subject, if you enter a “positive” query, it will produce a different ‘summary’ than if you enter a “negative” query.

try it yourself!

My point is (and you can read it on the net) that the type of data collected is different between classical web crawlers and the AI-related ones.

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You mean like this? :grinning_face:

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