I dont think anybody is saying that…it’s more along the lines if OMG can you believe they threw me out foe that?!
While I could certainly understand how you could consider this thread “Whiny”, I certainly don’t see how one thread should impact your feelings about the entire site. The thread is whiny by it’s nature because it’s dealing with a touchy subject, but how that impacts the quality of the rest of the site doesn’t make sense to me. If you don’t like this thread, just ignore it and move on. Life is much easier if you can filter those things you don’t like. 
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It’s a passing phase we’re going through, Weezie. It’ll be over soon and we can concentrate on talking about the food. This is a new set-up and we are actually being consulted by the site owner about how things might run. That’s good …Yes?
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What “whiny bullshit” are you specifically referring to? Are you OK if I use the ‘N’ word, or an ‘f bomb’ multiple times in every post just because I can? I think I know what’s OK, but my opinion is not necessarily the same as others.
I think you might not understand how the automatic bleeper works. What everyone would have seen in the Hooter’s thread was:
“Hooter’s waitresses get bigger tips because they shove their bleep in every guy’s face.”
Anybody reading that who has a problem with would see that their problem is not with the bleeped word – which could any number of words, but with the content of what the other person is saying. If people want to complain to the site admin about other poster’s content (ideas), they can, and in some cases, the admin would be quite wise to delete the offending content (i.e., “Everybody knows ableep can’t be trusted.” – where even bleeping the word doesn’t disguise an ethnic slur.) But in the specific case of the Hooter’s thread, were I the site admin, I would point out to any complainer that people have different points of view, and so long as the argument is civil, vividly worded disagreement about ideas is not going to be stopped, and if someone is offended, they should not click on the thread.
I’m not ok with the “N” word, or similar concepts, and if the site allows it, I won’t post here. I have no problem with multiple uses of the f-bomb (my husband would ask me if I was feeling ok if he didn’t regularly hear me use it), and I do have a problem with a website that says “One f-bomb is ok, and maybe two in a row might be if the context justifies it, but after 3 in less than 4 sentences, we will start considering it — …” whatever. I can’t see anything wrong with the word if the toddlers are in bed. It’s the way a good chunk of the English speaking world talks, like Joe Biden.
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Maybe the fix is to adopt a policy that states, something to the effect of:
“Posts that are deemed to be racially or ethnically derogatory and/or offensive will be removed and a warning shall be given to the poster. Repeat posts of this kind can result in the suspension or termination of the users account”
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Good suggestion, Mr Z. Although I’d prefer “will result”. There should be no tolerance of abusive language - and the warning should account for cultural differences in what may or may not be acceptable. I recall a fairly recent case in the UK, of a non-British footballer using a racially offensive word to another player. He claimed he was not intending to be offensive but it was simply a word in his culture to describe a black person. He wasnt believed and, in any event, was told that in our culture it is offensive and, when you’re here, you play by our rules.
I start from the point where, generally speaking, we are adults and know what is, and is not, offensive. Some words, if used, are inherently designed to be offensive.
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Yeah, it’s an unrefined text. The two concepts I’m committed to are that it’s the post not the word, and that the Site has discretion in adjudication.
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Do you follow FTC? As much as I try I can’t find a justification for the poster there who includes f*#king in almost every sentence of almost every post. It’s not going to end the world, but it shows me a childish quality that is unbecoming of the level of person I choose to spend my time with. Just my 2¢ I guess.
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I suppose you are talking about Luis Suarez. The site relies on everyone to point out the differences in interpretations of the same words across cultures, since we don’t have mods from every country.
Btw, all, hate speech is already prohibited in the rules here:
‘hate speech around e.g. race, color, religion, national origin, sexual orientation, disability or other traits,’
What its not clear yet, is the differentiation in the severity of the enforcement that results from different offenses (e.g. hate speech, vs personal attacks). In my opinion, there should be zero tolerance for hate speech. Personal attacks should be warned and repeated offenders should be suspended, banned, etc.
That’s on the to-do list.
Yep, I was referring to the Suarez debacle. Hopefully it will be some considerable time before you find the need to act against anyone.
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Coincidentally, they’re embroiled in a similar kerfuffle over what’s allowed and what’s not.
It’s healthy.
His use of “fucking” constantly was just too tiring for me to continue with.
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Unfortunately it appears that Robert is picking some unique ‘red lines’ while staying away from others. It will be a shame if that site suffers from the two extremes of word moderation.
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175 posts to this thread, and there is another thread with a parallel path.
What I have noticed is that everyone has a line they do not want crossed. I doubt if anyone is in favor of no rules. We have the no meaness, no personal attacks, no racial slurs, no ethnic slurs, no use of Carlin’s 7 words and no use of other ancillary words, the line is varied and wide. And most think their individual line is proper and not included in the term…banning. Unless you agree that every word is OK then there is banning, or censorship or whatever word you want to use.
As I stated in the other thread, I do not like the f-bomb as a descriptive term but dislike censorship even more. Maybe if we institute a report button and when the strawson the camelsback get too large the Mods send the offender an email asking to throttle back. This will give a full sense of the use of the word, the feelings of the majority and it will hopefully be self-policing.
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Sounds good J. I don’t mind the f-bomb either but, maybe it’s generational, am still bothered by it’s unfiltered, ‘just because I can’ use on FTC. Apparently that one poster either uses the word that much in normal conversation or is just getting off on being able to use it there. I’ve tried to just ignore it, but that doesn’t work all the time.That site seems to be imploding a bit, though, and it wouldn’t surprise me much to learn that might be part of the reason, even if people don’t say so publicly.
I agree that, unless there’s NO line drawn, someone has to play Solomon. I don’t see a reasonably workable way around that. Not a job I’d like for myself, but judges and juries do it every day.
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It’s difficult to ignore when it’s right there in the subject line. No need to even open a post.
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I don’t even mind it in a subject line if it has a legitimate context. But, with that guy, it seems to be used almost the way some people use “Ummm” or younger people use “Like”.
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^ this. Not offended - it’s just noise.
