I know, it’s an older conversation and I’m a newer member
Still…
I’d strongly suggest if you’re getting a stockpot to make stock you should consider a pressure cooker. Put a different lid on it and it’s fine as a conventional stockpot but cook under pressure and your stock is made in a third the time.
I have a 10 quart model, and a twenty five year old sitram 12 quart sitting unused for a decade.
I know a large number of cooks swear by this method. I do not have a pressure cooker, but for me the advantage of speed is not needed for stock. I often have a stockpot on the back burner either all morning or all afternoon. It takes no attention. So I already have available stock. I suppose the speed factor would be great if you needed a particular type of stock you did not have for a specific dish. Shellfish stocks or fish stocks are much less likely to be on hand in this house, and there are some dishes for which they are essential. Have I just kick started the process of considering a pressure cooker?!
I’ve got small, medium and large pressure cookers, all “jiggler weight” style. The middle size one is new, as it is compatible with my induction burner/hob. I still like my older smaller one, even though controlling the cooking process is more difficult on a radiant style burner/hob. I’ve cooked all manner of dishes in them. I haven’t made home made stock, but I imagine a pressure cooker would make quick work of the job.
The one I use for stock is this guy, 10 quarts. I’d never use it for fish stock, that’s a quick process and I’d be more worried about over extraction. I cook chicken for 75 minutes and beef/veal goes 3-4 hours.
I think this new style valve is a little more idiot proof than the jiggler, perfect for me!
After it’s done I fill the tall containers with the strained stock, let the fat rise in the refrigerator overnight and then I reduce by about half and put the reduced stock in the little Rubbermaid containers. Best ever investment was buying a label maker, keeps everything organized.
Cote du Rhône is not officially part of the process, it’s just shown for scale
If you often make fish stocks that you want hearty, this large French food mill (I think it’s tellier) extracts all the goodness from the fish head and bones. Mine is tin, not stainless so you have to hand wash it but I only use it a couple of times a year, no big deal
Depends on the fish. I steamed some 1 1/2 pound striped bass and used the bones for stock, they were okay. You get the frame of an eight pound fish in there, your biceps will be bulging
It depends on the alloy, the salinity and the duration. I wouldn’t ferment kraut for 6 weeks. Overnight soaks of chicken and turkey haven’t pitted anything of mine.
It also depends a lot if your brine contains undissolved salt. Pitting is a stochastic process, but put solid salt in contact with most any alloy, and you’ll get pitting.
Now then, I have had induction bottoms pit, but I attribute that to the 400 Series SS that is required to “work” with induction. If you use that for the exterior, by experience is you’ll have pitting. That’s why makers put it somewhere inside
I get it that pressure cookers can do lots of things really quickly. So can microwaves. I am just wondering, strictly from a final product perspective, why either would be your first choice. I have a 24x24 stockpot I use probably every week and a half or so. Using it to make stock is simple enough I could teach my three year old granddaughter how to do it. The only ingredients in short supply are patience and being meticulous. You can, however, swap out obliviousness for the patience. Just ignoring it while it sits at a smile is extremely easy.
Depends on what kind of broth….pressure cooker can help make bone broth a little faster, break things down a bit better. The one thing I keep hearing about pressure cookers is food often doesn’t take as good or right, straight out of the pot. Needs a day in the frig, but that’s common or many things.
It’s hard for me to imagine somebody sitting around and thinking: “you know, what stands between me and greatness are the microwave and pressure cooker; I’m going out today and buying both.” Greatness can mean in the context of a professional kitchen, or just feeding your family really, really good food patiently prepared.
Everybody, and I mean everybody, who cooks is doing so for that “a-ha” moment when a dish turns out perfectly and the people eating the food realize it. I don’t think this path goes through the microwave or pressure cooker. If somebody needs to save time, then just change the menu. There are plenty of great dishes that can be prepared quickly. Make stock on weekends. Become a master of integral (pan) sauces, etc., etc. Oherwise, a pot of something on a long, low simmer IS cooking. The very essence of it. A love of cooking can be an impetus for people to change the way they live their lives and it is usually for the better. If being home nursing a pot of stock to perfection isn’t your jam, then cooking really isn’t either.