[San Francisco, North Beach] Original Joe's

I’ve been on an Italian-American food kick recently and have went to Original Joe’s in North Beach a few times over the last few months. Originally located in the Tenderloin, Original Joe’s moved to its present location opposite Washington Square park in 2012 four years after a fire closed its original location. I’d never been to the Tenderloin location so can’t say how it compares. I’m guessing the prices were lower. In addition to the North Beach location, the owners also own Joe’s of Westlake in Daly City. There’s also an Original Joe’s in San Jose, but I don’t know if they are related as they have different websites.

I would classify Original Joe’s as an Italian-American diner, with comfortable upholstered booths and a lounge-like bar area. It’s fun to sit at the chef’s counter in the back and watch the kitchen work. They also have a mesquite charcoal grill which gives a nice flavor to grilled steaks and chops.

Here’s what I had over a few recent visits.

Calves Liver and Onion ($25.95, comes with choice of side)

The classic combination of liver and onions. I had this cooked medium rare. Sweet grilled onions. Good texture in the liver, smooth and a little pink in the middle. A good match with the salty crispy bacon and the sweet grilled onions. They put some green colored oil (from parsley maybe?) around the plate which made for an interesting presentation.


Chicken Parmigiana ($27.95, comes with choice of side)

Original Joe’s does a very good chicken parm. I had this a few times. Sometimes a little too heavy with the salt in the tomato sauce though. White meat chicken with a crispy breading, with a generous amount of mozzarella cheese melted and slightly browned under the grill.


Prime Rib Dip ($21.95, comes with choice of side)

A good French dip sandwich. The bread roll is not sourdough but rather something softer and sweeter. Good thinly sliced steak, with a powerful horseradish sauce. I would probably get their burger over this though if I were looking for a beef sandwich.


Joe’s Special ($18.95 plus $2 extra for mushrooms)

A “made in San Francisco” dish. Basically a scramble with ground beef, onions, and spinach. I added mushrooms for a little extra. It tastes like what it’s made of. Eggs were a bit overdone.


Joe’s Famous Hamburger Sandwich with French Fries ($19.95 plus $2 for cheese)

Simply constructed burger. The sourdough bread that it is used in lieu of a bun was not too hard and not mouth slicing. I had it medium rare and char-broiled with cheddar cheese. Very juicy and beefy patty. I think there were some finely diced onions in the patty that gave it some extra flavor. This is a large burger that can possibly feed two.


Hamburger Steak ($24.95 plus $3.95 for sautéed mushrooms and onions, comes with choice of side)

This looks like a larger version of the beef patty in the hamburger sandwich, only without the bread. I and added onions and mushrooms for a little extra. Interesting accompaniment of sport peppers and olives.


Roasted Prime Rib ($38.95)

A solid prime rib with good creamed spinach and mashed potatoes. Won’t give House of Prime Rib much competition though.


Arancini ($10.95)
Little fried risotto balls with cheese. OK.


Fries (Side Dish) ($7.95)
Their fries are good.


Ravioli (Side Dish) ($7.95)
The ravioli themselves were pretty good, but the sauce was a little watery.


Creamed Spinach (Side Dish) ($7.95)
Good creamed spinach. I’ve tended to order this as a side dish most of the time - many of the mains have a choice of a side. Because vegetables. The amount of cream and butter in it probably nullifies any health benefits of the spinach though.


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I was looking at the Original Joe’s SJ web site and here’s what they have to say about the relationship with Original Joe’s in SF:

‘In 1937 the partner’s at “New Joe’s” had a falling out. One of the partner’s teamed up with Louis J. Rocca and Ante Rodin and started a restaurant at 144 Taylor Street in San Francisco. He insisted he was “The Original” so they called the new restaurant “Original Joe’s.” The restaurant became extremely popular.’

'On May 24, 1956 Louis J. Rocca, Louis J. Rocca, Jr.(Babe), Arthur Tortore (Otto) and Anthony Caramagno (Nino) opened “Original Joe’s” in San Jose. ’

and finally:
Original Joe’s is an independently owned restaurant and not affiliated with other Original Joe’s establishments.

The SF Joe’s has this to say:
‘Original Joe’s history runs deep, beginning in 1937 as a 14-stool counter on a saw dust covered floor at 144 Taylor Street in San Francisco’s Tenderloin. It was opened by a Croatian immigrant, Tony Rodin…’

‘In the late 1930’s, original owner Tony Rodin partnered with Louis Rocca. In 1983, after a fulfilling 40-year partnership, Louis left and sold his share of the business to Tony’s daughter and son-in-law, Marie and John J. Duggan’

Both the SF/ Westlake Joe’s are owned and run by the Duggans, and the San Jose location is owned and run by the Roccas.

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Interesting, thanks for the info.

We’ve been around long enough to have gotten acquainted in the Tenderloin (where the sourdough for the burger tended toward jawbreaker), found our way to Westlake (and the bargain Manhattan) and San Jose (where players from teams visiting the Shark Tank are sometimes seen), but not North Beach.

Original Joe’s Westlake. I think the last time I was here was under prior ownership. Nice to see things haven’t really changed. Bustling and festive - I heard the waiters sing Happy Birthday to three different tables during our meal.


Joe’s Manhattan - Buffalo Trace, Carpano Antica, Angoustora bitters - classic, cold, and like everything at Joe’s - large.

Daughter and I split the fried calamari appetizer, tender squid, not greasy but could have been a tad crispier. Large portion, unless you have the capacity of @Mr_Happy I can’t imagine eating an appetizer and entree by yourself here, especially since you shouldn’t shy away from the excellent bread they serve.

Delicious warm sourdough with solid crust and tang.

Bay shrimp louie entree salad with sweet tender shrimp.


Creamed spinach side for an upcharge - classic version.

Sole piccata was fresh with a lemony butter sauce - great for sourdough dipping.

Steaks and fish are grilled on mesquite wood.

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Lovely weather for an outdoor dinner at the North Beach location, great people watching on Washington Square Park. We played guess the tourist, which is usually pretty easy (they’re the ones in shorts), but was harder on this hot night.
Sole picatta was different from the Westlake location as it wasn’t breaded - I asked the waiter about the difference and he said no they must have made a mistake at Westlake Joe’s, but I think I like the breaded better. Eggplant parm was good with light breading so it tasted of eggplant. Side ravioli with meat sauce was classic red sauce joint comfort food. Two Manhattans, they’re pretty strong, probably should have stuck with one lol.

Fior de latte soft serve from Flour + Water next door.

[Edit - I forgot we split a Caesar salad - classic version, we each got our own anchovy.]





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Gotta have your own anchovy.

In a different life over a fairly short period, business had us dining a few times with someone with strong preferences and habits, including asking for anchovies on the side with every Caesar order.

There’s a restaurant in Lafayette that charges $2 extra if you want an anchovy with your Caesar salad. Not my kind of restaurant.

Also Original Joe Westlake puts too much salt in most of their dishes (and I LIKE salt!).

LOL - they do a nice job of splitting a dish.

Talk about burying and not praising. How long before someone’s shorts get in a twist and sues the miscreant menu sponsor for misleading the customer about a standard salad preparation made unappetizing for want of an “upcharge”.

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I haven’t been, my friend lives there and told me about it.

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Caesar salad is $15.95 WITHOUT the anchovy.

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I went to Original Joe’s Westlake today for the first time. FKA Joe’s of Westlake. It was poppin on a Sunday evening. I snagged a seat at the bar.

I ordered the chicken parm, to compare with the one at the North Beach Original Joe’s. For science. It was good, pretty much identical to the North Beach chicken parm, as was the ravioli that I had as a side, which was like a nicer Chef Boyardee’s.

The Martini was also nice.

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Even though I live about 15 from here, I don’t go often because most items are way too salty (and I like salt!) The chicken parm is a good deal, I like the chicken Marsala. I thought the Caesar salad was disappointing.

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I had a couple of dinners recently at the bar at Original Joe’s Westlake.

First, back in December, I tried a twist on the chicken parm - the Prosciutto Spicy Vodka Parmigiana ($38.95), which has a layer of prosciutto on the chicken, a bit like veal saltimbocca but with chicken and without the sage. The prosciutto gave it a nice salty savory boost. The tomato sauce was replaced with a creamy vodka sauce. I thought it was very good, though I do like salty dishes. With the meat dishes you have a choice of side - spaghetti with meat sauce, Joe’s ravioli with meat sauce, French fries, or mashed potatoes. I picked the ravioli which were as good as usual.

There was also a Martini.

On another visit to Original Joe’s Westlake yesterday evening, I ordered 24oz Porterhouse ($59.95) and added sautéed mushrooms and onions for $4. I chose the fries as my side this time. I also added an extra side of creamed spinach for $10.95.

The 24oz porterhouse, which has a tenderloin section and a strip section, is bone-in and huge. It had a nice crust from the grill and was cooked to medium rare as requested. As expected, the tenderloin section was quite tender and the strip section less so but more flavorful. The onions and mushrooms were under the steak, which was also accompanied with pickled peppers and some black olives. It was a good steak and a lot of meat. I did manage to finish it but was stuffed. The fries were not that good, definitely a step down from the fries I’ve had before at the North Beach Joe’s. They were thinner than those and also a little limp. The creamed spinach on the other hand was very good with a good balance of spinach and cream sauce.

So kind of a mixed bag this time. I will skip the fries next time at Joe’s Westlake, and if getting a steak choose one of the smaller ones :slight_smile:

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I’ve never liked their fries there; always taste intensely salty … maybe sea salt and way too much.

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I had the prime rib ($49.95) at Westlake on Saturday at the bar.

Like the one at the North Beach Joe’s, it’s a good, solid, thick prime rib, not quite to the level of HOPR but it hit the spot.

Also a Beefeater Martini ($12) with a twist, which was good, and mostly gin with a vermouth rinse.

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