Restaurant Portions Are About to Get Smaller. Are Americans ready?

Sorry, all outta gift links, but I know some still have a few to spare :pleading_face:

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/24/dining/restaurant-portions.html?campaign_id=9&emc=edit_nn_20240925&instance_id=135217&nl=the-morning&regi_id=69392103&segment_id=178767&te=1&user_id=4308806032ba073ba7b86cab90c0a5b7

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I am 1000% in favor of this.

Gift link.

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Same, and muchas :pray:t3:

I think the NY Times article is distorting the data from the report to spin this in a way that will appeal to their base (i.e., largely upper-middle class and higher income East coasters).

For instance, the NY Times states: “More than 75 percent of customers say they want smaller portions for less money, according to the 2024 National Restaurant Association report on the industry.”

But if you actually look at the report (or at least the linked press release summary - the full report is costly if you’re not an association member), here’s what it says:

“If consumers are somewhat split on technology, they can agree on the value of a special deal or discount, with 7 in 10 adults saying they often look for a daily special or discount. Customers (85 percent) are more flexible about when they dine if it comes with a deal and 84 percent said they’d take advantage of deals offered for dining at off-peak times. Further, 75 percent of adults would opt for smaller-sized portions for a lower price—a trend that can help restaurants curb food waste and improve profits.”

“Would opt for” and “want” are not the same thing. Also, note the emphasis on value in the preceding sentences. It’s easy to say in a survey that you would opt for a smaller portion at a lower price, but much harder to actually opt for a smaller portion at a lower price when you find out that means half as much food for 80% as much money. Restaurants cannot lower the cost of meals commensurately with their size - they have too many fixed costs outside of food. Also, smaller price tags mean tipped waitstaff is getting paid less for the same amount of work (thanks dumb American tipping system).

The article also ignores the vast differences in expectations among restaurants at various price points and in various locales. People from NYC and LA are going to be shocked at how large portions are when they visit the midwest, and people from the midwest are going to be shocked at how “little” they get for their money when they visit coastal cities. You can’t blame restaurateurs for erring on the side of caution and providing more food than some people expect when it costs them very little to do so and makes a significant portion of their customers feel they’re getting a great value.

Anyway, all that to say that I tend to agree with the CEO of Chili’s and Maggiano’s quoted near the end of the article: "There is a truth about American consumers: People want what they want,” he said. “It’s our job to meet guests where they are and not where we think they should be.” Given the realities of American life that go into the economics of restaurants (tipping, health care costs, etc.) as well as our deeply-entrenched “bigger is better” culture, I don’t see major changes to portion sizes (in most restaurants) happening anytime soon.

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Restaurant portions are already too small for me.

I routinely order multiple apps and entrees. Sometimes I go home and eat a second meal, or just hit up McDonald’s for a Filet-O-Fish as a chaser.

If they get smaller, I’ll just have to order more-er.

And if people would train themselves to eat more slowly, their brain would register that their stomach is full (the “it takes 20 minutes for your brain to start registering stomach fullness”). I sometimes see coworkers finish their lunch (which is usually more than adequate in portion size) in about 10 minutes, and THEN get something else to eat out of their carry-in bag. One of them is admittedly a “quantity over quality” type of eater.

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the size vs cost thing is a total joke/BS.

the difference in cost for an 8 ounce steak to a 6 ounce steak . . . no.
per the old rules of thumb, 2/3 of the resto cost is labor and overhead.
1/3 is ingredients.

taxes/fees/energy are up.
labor is up.

reducing the size of the portion cannot remotely make any dent on the other 2/3.

besides, places above ‘greasy spoon’ eateries, portions are not known to be ultra-uber-sized.

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America
go big or go home. Hence you got ginormous SUVs and trucks, advocated by a French anthropologist who consulted with the auto industry and made millions off the consulting and became an American citizen.

Agree that it might be a hard sell but the logic is there
.and I mentioned the French anthropologist because culture is a very hard thing to change, even if there’s many reasons like waste, environment, health, costs. Culture in fact has many people going against self interest and logic. That’s why some political factions focus on culture war in the US, because it’s a proven way to prevent change, and is very difficult to counter. Culture is almost a reflex reaction over time, not a choice.

To change culture, usually some big, massive and historic event has to happen
like a Great Depression, which is one reason why Americans wants more, HUGE and hordes in the first place. Look at how Depression era children shaped post-war America and corporations. Value in America is a big deal after the Depression and after WII industrialists and corporate types went after the issue of not enough while making as much $$$ as possible. On many levels this made sense
fix the problem. How they fixed problem of volume might have caused other problems
like unintended health issues from industrial food. Oops.

In any case, I have a pretty basic solution to the issue, at least in fast food and fast casual - have a standard size and a decent value but DO NOT give a discount for volume, or supersizing. Make the smaller standard size a better deal. Oh right, large corporations and MBAs who bank on margins won’t buy it. Oh well
wait for a historic event that shifts perspective
or another phenomenon.

Well that’s not unusual

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Brilliant analysis. Bravo.

Thanks!:+1:

We’ve been known to split an entree that we know would feed a small country although it will cost us an extra $5 or so. Cutting out the waste is important to us.

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Many upscale restaurants in San Francisco, Boston and San Diego have way too large portion. It is not something just at “greasy spoon” shops, it’s a general phenomena in the US. I would love to see a much more European approach in the US with significant smaller portion sizes (I think it would also have a positive impact on the overall health in the US)

This East Coaster was concomitantly pleased and disgusted to see this pork schnitzel sandwich in Iowa:

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Most people in the US eat most of their meals at home and at fast or casual food outlets.

Reducing portion size at upscale restaurants that aren’t fast or casual isn’t going to affect health in the US much at all.

The US culture of fast food and junk food and carb loading with ingredients known to have negative health effects is more of a problem. Huge consumption soft drinks of all with enormous sodium and sugar levels, including juices that purport to be “fruit” that are mostly sugar, is another big factor.

In many areas, consumption of fresh vegetables and whole fruits is not part of the culture, and many cities have healthy food “deserts” where those items aren’t readily available while sodas and junk food and pizza loaded with fatty cheap meats and cheeses are within a few blocks.

We, like many people, don’t frequent upscale restaurants because we are conserving financial resources. So I can’t speak to portions in upscale restaurants in Boston. People who can afford to frequent upscale restaurants, meaning people of high income and educational levels, seem to have better health outcomes in general.

Obesity is a very complex multi-factorial problem. The US food consumption and food production culture needs many changes, as does the lack of physical exercise.

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Just to be clear when I talk about upscale restaurants I am not talking about high-end restaurants (French Laundry or Menton and No 9 in Boston) but restaurants in Boston like Sarma, Dali, Guilia, Moona, Catalyst, Commonwealth, Puritan, Row34 or Sycamore etc etc - so I am not sure if I agree that many people don’t frequent them. Those are very popular restaurants (and there are many, many more) in GBA) and a lot of people get their dinner/lunch from them and so I think changing the portion size across restaurants in the US would have significant effect on the health of many people. (If it is realistic to change such the mindset around food in the US over the next 20-30 years is a complete different issue (and IMO not very likely). And I agree that portion size is just one issue of many wrt health but it is also important to not focus on one issue nut tackle many of them in parallel to have a chance to have an overall measurable impact

First of all, I’d like to thank you for expanding my vocabulary with the word “ concomitantly”. That was a new one on me. Second, I’ve never been to Iowa or had The famous pork sandwich, but I’ve seen them featured many times. on travel/cooking shows. It’s really just a Very Thinly pounded piece of pork loin, breaded and deep fried. And it’s my understanding that you would have to pry this state wide delicacy out of a dead/cold Iowan’s hands. They probably wouldn’t appreciate the word disgusted either.

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I didn’t just say disgusted :sunglasses:
Of course, it’s a big pork producer. China knows that!

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Yes, those are popular restaurants for those who can afford them.

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Well, Dali is one restaurant I’ve frequented over the past 30+ years. Ordering tapas is a way (for me) to not eat quite so much (vs full entree with sides). Plus you order them over a longer period of time, so it ties in with my comment above with eating more slowly.

Yeah, it’s definitely not cheap (especially when you add sangria and after dinner Licor 43). But going there 4-6 times a year now (vs the almost biweekly appearances I made at the bar back in the 2000s :flushed:) is a splurge I’m willing to pay and, gratefully, CAN pay.

But I agree, it’s a “special night out” place as it relates to cost.

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