Jing Fong -- Manhattan

The NYT has just published a no-holds-barred encomium of Jing Fong. Haven’t been for years, but I always found it mediocre. Anyone have any new opinions?

I’ve been to Jing Fong off and on for around 20+ years. I have had their dim sum be anywhere from good, to great, depending upon the visit. I have had some of the most unique, artistic, and delicious dim sum there on a few occasions. A few visits have compared to some of the best West Coast dim sum I have had, and even to Hong Kong. Other times just medium good. Never mediocre, but I also haven’t been for around two years.

I guess we’ll try it again in October.

I go to Jing Fong once or twice a year - either to see if anything has changed, or out of boredom for my usual places.

It’s fine, but that’s about the only descriptor I can come up with. The food isn’t better, the service always seems worse - each time, the only way to get food in a timely fashion is to run to the kitchen doors when a new set of carts exits, and there are often long waits in between sets.

I’ve been wary of the UWS location mostly because prices are about double, and when the food is “fine” at the original, my expectation is that it will be a notch below on the UWS. I’m sure I’ll end up there one of these days, though, given that the only other option around there is Shun Lee.

Not very encouraging. So I guess you don’t put much stock in the NYT write-up. I would not consider the UWS location, as we stay in Chinatown when we’re in the city.

The food at the UWS is comparable the Chinatown location (although, as you say, more expensive), and the panfried radish/turnip cake is actually much better at the UWS. I agree that the service is a weak point. My experience with the food has ranged from pretty good to ok. I have had the occasional very tasty dish there, and nothing comes to mind as being bad.

I just scanned the NYT article - it’s more of a writeup on an old local institution that’s still around with the third generation joining the business (than suggesting it’s better than anywhere else).

I’ve taken guests there because of the “typical” banquet room and carts, and they’ve enjoyed it. Golden Unicorn generates a similar reaction.

Nom Wah was similarly written up a few years ago which sparked new interest, especially from visitors - the long lines were not because the food was better (most of it is better elsewhere). But history is worth something, and a NYT article will do a lot for a place.

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Haven’t been to Golden Unicorn or to 88 Palace yet. Both seem to please people. A couple of years ago we went to Joy Luck Palace after reading some good write-up somewhere. We went with some cousins who live in Portland, OR. They were very unimpressed.

I tried joy luck palace twice with completely different experiences.

The first time, they seemed to have run out of food at a little past noon. There was a long wait while they replenished, and even then the same few carts made the round over and over. 45 mins later, after trying a couple of the available dumplings (that were mediocre compared to the usuals), we left and went elsewhere.

The second time, they were in better shape. The food was plentiful and circulating. Their har gow might have been the best at the time - plump, tasty, skin just right. The other dumplings were good, everything with slightly thicker skins than elsewhere, but also better stuffed and well flavored.

When I tried to go back, they had already shut down for good.

It’s worth trying different places when one’s risk is low - ie for locals. But if you’re coming in and eat dim sum rarely, I always suggest the same two places. You may have a 7/10 meal instead of 8 or 9, but it won’t be much lower than that, and someone who isn’t eating there (or similar) all the time will likely place it higher than my own ongoing assessment over many visits.

There are, of course, non-Chinatown options that are of higher quality and flavor than anything available in Chinatown, at a price premium of course.

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Have you tried Shun Lee on the UWS? I’m curious how they compare, because the price points are similar.

Shun Lee used to be excellent, but has had several cycles of awful back to good in the past two decades. Currently okay but not great imo.

I noticed another place opening up - on Columbus maybe? Tri Dim - believe they have one one the UES.

I didn’t know that Joy Luck Palace had closed its doors to the public. So I looked them up and found the report on eater.com. That’s probably where I came across them in the first place. We liked the place, but as I mentioned, our cousins from Portland did not.

About 15 years ago we went to one of the upper scale Chinese places with cousins from Westchester. It may have been Shun Lee Palace. At the time there were two or three like that. We liked it very much.

Do you know anything about Golden Unicorn or 88 Palace?

Have not eaten at Shun Lee in at least two decades. I was taken to dinner there (I think at the time it was in a different location), and I remember generally liking the food and generally being awestruck at the prices. Didn’t know about Tri Dim. Thanks for the tip.

Golden unicorn is where I take people for the cart experience. Food is good, consistent, and their machine is well oiled for the weekend rush.

Non-cart go-to is Dim Sum Go Go. I don’t veer much from these for visitors unless there are extenuating circumstances.

Shun Lee had two locations - east and west. They closed the east side one a while back.

Don’t take Tri Dim as a tip - I’ve never eaten there :joy:

We like that place, too.

From this: http://www.shunleerestaurants.com/ it appears that both locations are still open. It must have been the east side location I ate at.

While we’re digging into the past, these two are interesting:

https://tmagazine.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/09/25/shun-lee-manhattan-fine-dining-chinese-restaurant/

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