HO Double Lunch at Mariscos El Submarino (Jackson Heights) and Tyang Gelay's Grill (Woodside)

Three and then four of us got together for two meals - could be breakfast and lunch, if you’re me, and the first meal of the day is always breakfast, or two lunches, if you can’t quite wrap your head around tacos as a breakfast food, or maybe you already had breakfast.

@Saregama, @JenKalb and I convened at Mariscos El Submarino around noon to kick off the mini-crawl with aguachile and tacos. And an array of hot sauces, which we carefully assessed as we waited for our meal.

First to hit the table, the aguachile mixto, a lime-y, salty, spicy broth full of fish, shrimp and octopus. Through some kind of sorcery, the avocado morphed into cucumber, distressing @Saregama, who is not a cuke fan.

I thought this was a solid rendition, a little too salty, and the ratio was off - too much fish (and later, too much cucumber, still trying to figure that out).

I was more impressed with the tacos, El Gobernador (shrimp in a creamy cheese sauce, folded over and fried like a quesadilla) and The Craken (octopus and cheese, not a sea monster from Clash of the Titans). The first was very interesting, like something you’d be more likely to find at a TGI Fridays (this is not a dis) than at a Mexican restaurant in Queens. The latter was simply good.

And then a walk/ride on the Q32 to Tyang Gelay’s Grill, where we met up with @DaveCook for round two. The menu had many appealing options, but we eventually settled on Pampano Sarciado (a whole fish cloaked in tomato, onion and egg); Laing minus pork (taro leaves and coconut milk, basically); Tinolang Tahong (sauteed mussels on the menu, mussels in broth on the table, with chayote, spinach and hella ginger); barbecued pork and some goat thing, neither of which I am qualified to report on, so hopefully someone else will.

I didn’t love love anything (I will say the rice smelled amazing, even though it was just plain ol’ white rice). The mussels were pleasant, and the sauce on the fish was very nice. A good meal, not a great one.

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I guess as a meat eater I was happier with the meal at Tyang Telay’s Grill, since both the pork BBQ and young goat (kambing) kalderata were very tasty indeed. (picture below) The latter very much showed the spanish influence and the goat meat was tender and very tasty, the BBQ was likewise tender and very good. I thought the achar relish was too sweet though (Renee’s was better). The pompano was rather small and didnt stand out, frying soggy under the moist and pleasant dressing of chopped onion, tomatoes and egg. Laing, which I had liked a lot at Renee’s lacked oomph and the Tinolang Tahong green mussels (menu said they were sauteed) were instead presented in a very nice broth which included manylarge slices of ginger, still slightly crisp pieces of mirliton (chayote) a small quantity of spinach and a long green chile. On the whole I thought the dishes were rather smaller than expected for the price, but prices are going up!

I enjoyed Mariscos Submarino but was sort of let down by the aguachile - some of the seafood was mushy and the cucumber was surprising overkill. There was a sameness without definition about the flavor which bothered me - not as fresh tasting as I expected - probably I would have liked the coctel better. The creaminess of the taco el gobernator was delightful, and the octopus was very nice in the kraken taco (tho my single bite disappeared before I could think about it much. Loved the chile tasting and looking forward to the chance to shop for some of these.
Thanks for the company all!!

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I think I enjoyed both meals more than others have described so far.

At Mariscos, I liked the taco gubernador best, which was actually a shrimp quesadilla. I liked the aguachile a lot, and did not find it overly salty, though that may have been a result of my extensive hot sauce “tasting” just before, haha. The octopus taco we could have easily skipped.

The mystery of the half avocado that disappeared into the aguachile will never be solved.

At Tyang Gelay, the Pork BBQ, Laing, and Pompano Sarciado were my favorites. I thought sauce on the pompano was very flavorful and complemented it well. The pork was delicious, almost as good as the bbq sausage at Renee’s. The Laing, though it seemed a bit creamier in my memory, was just lovely with rice.

I have had good Indian goat preparations recently, so while an unfair comparison, the goat Kalderetang here wasn’t as tender, though it was flavorful. I didn’t see any billing for baby goat, though there was variance in menus so maybe it just wasn’t on mine. I thought the flavors were brighter than the homey beef kalderetang at Renee’s which was reminiscent of a nice pot roast.

(@JenKalb We didn’t have Laing at Renee’s — you got takeout from the grocery store after along with the goat kalderetang)

Some more pics:

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A palette to burn my palate:

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Shrimp “taco”, octopus taco, aguachile with VISIBLE avocado :rofl:

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Pork bbq

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Pompano Sarciado, buried and revealed:

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Goat Kalderetang:

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Mussels with spinach and chayote:

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Laing:

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Here is my confusion - I was remembering the Tito Rad dinner rather than the Renee’s lunch, which I seem to be blanking on at the moment, tho I do remember the laing I bought afterwards which was very much the same as at Tyang Gelay. Its interesting (I hadnt realized) that this dish is traditinally made with DRIED taro leaves. I enjoyed the pompano too but wished the moist dressing had been on the side to preserve any crunch from the frying, and that there had been more edible food (spinach and mirliton) in the mussel dish in addition to the ginger.

the laing and (goat) kaltereta at Tito Rad were both really excellent.

Thanks for that great review. Bummed that Submarino isn’t better. I am on a big crudo / ceviche / tartare kick these days. Gotta give props to a place that has The Kraken as a dish.

[Aside: sometimes when I chime in on a work meeting, my colleagues say “Release the Kraken!” Not kidding.]

Here’s a report from an earlier group meal, in case you haven’t already seen it. El Rey has the edge on the raw stuff.

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We barely scratched the surface at Mariscos so I wouldn’t write it off (and mixed reviews even from that)

You may want to read prior reports

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We loved submarino and thought the aguachile especially good. Dave suggested letting the fish “cook” for a bit in the bowl, maybe it was the placebo effect (or maybe it was gentle wordplay on/by @DaveCook ), but I did find the spicing better towards the end of the meal.

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