Cookware--End of a Golden Era?

I meant microwave had been around a long time as compared to more recent cooking innovations in pan construction, especially ply cookware.

It is not about regulation. Take even video game consoles, do you remember this ads from Playstation 4?

Official PlayStation Used Game Instructional Video - YouTube

It is not about regulation. It is about options. No one regulates Playstation 4 or Xbox how to share games.

We need a laugh button.

Tim. Got it. Then I think we were just talking over each others. Somewhere up there is this conversation about most of the innvoation people talking about are not revolution innovation just a slightly better way to do the same thing. e.g. A triple stainless fry pan still do the same thing as an bare aluminum pan – cooking foods on a heated surface, so the cooking technique and methods have not changed.

Anyway, I am not disagreeing with you. I was just following what from a different line of thinking from above, so I said microwave is definitely a different way to cook things.

I am on board with you. Thanks for clarifying. In my mind the golden age of cookware was when I was buying mine in the sixties and seventies. Copper was thick, tinned, and more affordable. Carbon steel knives were quite inexpensive. Appliances were analogue. My toaster, my espresso maker, electric kettle, and my stand mixer are all nearly half a century old and doing just fine. I did have to replace an element in my toaster and gaskets in the espresso maker.

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I think how people view cookware changes. You bring up an excellent point. There is way too much focus on product being “green”, but not about “long lasting”. It really does not matter pan A is environment cleaner than pan B (let’say produce half the pollutants), if pan A lasts 1/5th the time of pan B.

Having any products that last long is an important component. However, we are shifting from that culture. I think part of the reason why products do not last 40-50 years is also because people tend to upgrade far faster than this.

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Yes. The saying, “Buy once; cry once.” no longer has relevance. That is a shame. All that money spent on upgrades could have been used in so many other ways.

Thanks for the heads up!

If this is the end, what or when was the beginning?

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Discovery of fire?

Cookware is like fashion and golf clubs. The marketing department needs to convince you that you NEED the newest.

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Well then I am a case study in immunity to marketing! In addition to my cookware, my clothes are the same as I have worn since the fifties, and my “new” golf clubs are thirty year old blades, bought only because my much older ones were stolen.

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What blades are you using, Tim ?

Mizuno. I think they are MP-29s. I love 'em, but I liked my stolen Hogan Apex just as well. Both are easy to work the ball. Both, like heavy tinned copper, are way cheaper than the new stuff.

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I thought you have a bunch of Sabatier knives

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Sorry. I am an idiot. You meant golf clubs by Mizuno. I thought blade as in kitchen knives.

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I used to have a Mizuno knife… :slight_smile:

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What happened? Gave it away or stolen?

Sold it, and used the proceeds for the Watanabe gyuto… No regrets!

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This was in response to a digression with Claus. The Mizunos are golf clubs.

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