Loud and clear. Some people buy nice pieces that they don’t yet know how to use. They expect an improvement over their current batterie; and find out most pans are not non-stick. They didn’t do their homework and are pssed they wasted the money. If it’s my SIL, I get the bennie of those experiences. Got a nice CI Dutch oven because she didn’t feel it could get clean without detergent. Aside from cleaning and reseasoning it, lovely piece.
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