Z&Y 2018 menu


#1

Z&Y has changed the menu a lot over the past two years. The menu is tighter, with less distraction from non-Sichuan items. First, here’s what’s new:

Chef’s Specialties

  • er… what’s the difference between the $18.95 house special fresh fish filet in house spicy sauce 功夫水煮魚; and $25.95 fish filet with flaming chili oil 招牌沸騰魚? Later in the menu is $18.95 fish filets in hot Chile oil 功夫水煮魚 and $18.95 boiled fish with green pepper 青花椒水煮魚
  • Basic clams or garlic clams with wine/spicy clams
  • Spicy (yellow feather) Chicken w/ peppercorns in clear broth
  • Spicy duck tongue in mini flaming pot
  • Stewed duck in beer
  • Spicy squid in mini flaming pot

New appetizers

  • Spicy duck tongue / soy sauce duck tongue
  • Spicy beef jerky
  • Pork kidney with spicy numbing sauce
  • Spicy sweet and sour chicken w/ peppercorns (strange flavor chicken)
  • Sesame/spicy bamboo shoots
  • Celery dumplings

Hot & Spicy

  • Chicken (or beef or lamb) w/ peppercorns in clear broth
  • Spicy (beef or lamb) w/ peppercorns in clear broth
  • #10 Boiled fish with green peppercorns (water boiled fish)
  • Homestyle eggplant

Clay pot

  • Spicy shrimp in clay pot
  • Spicy squid in mini flaming pot
  • Spicy cauliflower in mini flaming pot
  • Hot spicy beef in mini flaming pot

Seafood

  • Fish fillets in hot chili oil (water boiled fish, how different than #10 in Hot & Spicy?)

Beef/lamb

  • Boiled beef tripe with tiger pepper
  • Szechuan chili lamb

Pork

  • Shredded pork with black bean (Beijing sauce pork)
  • Dry braised pig’s feet
  • Sauteed vermicelli w/ spicy minced pork (Ant climbing trees)

Vegetables

  • Snow pea
  • Celtuse with garlic or preserve tofu
  • A choy (mis-labeled celtuse) with garlic or preserve tofu
  • Cabbage with rice noodles

On website as “New Dishes”, but not the menu

  • Sichuan Beef (New Dish)
  • Grill Whole Fish (New Dish)

They got rid of:

  • Yunnan Style Rice Cake :frowning:
  • Tea tree mushroom in mini flaming pot
  • The majority of the frog and intestine dishes (though some of those same dishes are made with other ingredients, so I wonder if they’re available by special request). The absence of these dishes certainly distinguishes Z & Y from various other Sichuan restaurants.
  • Bitter melon with honey isn’t listed anymore. It used to be listed as Seasonal, so it’s worth asking about it
  • A bunch of filler Cantonese, Chinese American, & all the Shanghainese items
  • Some odder dishes like Feng Wine Beef, Turkey Style Grill Beef, Official Style Grill Pork,
  • Wasabi w/ Chicken & Pork Intestine
  • Coconut pumpkin soup
  • I’ve heard they will no longer put meat on the Tan Tan Noodles



Recent Z&Y experiences?
#2

Did you go recently? How’s the food?

We tried to walk in a few months back during CNY but there was a long wait so we ate something else.


(George) #3

We ate at Z&Y a few weeks ago. We ordered dishes we had tried in the past and overall we felt they were not as good as past versions. Here is what we ate:

Beef roll- I believe on the menu it’s called “pancake with beef”. I thought this was not as good as versions we have had in the past and I am not sure why. It seemed drier and not as flavorful.

House special fish filet from the Signature dishes. This was fish in a spicy numbing broth with spicy oil on top. Not as good as previous versions we have had. The broth was watery. Except for spicy and numbing it lacked other supporting flavors (garlic, ginger etc.) to round out the flavor profile and it tasted very one dimensional compared to previous versions I have had here and similar dishes at other restaurants.

Pork with sour bean. This has always been one of my favorite dishes but as with the other things we ordered was not as good as previous visits. The sour spicy bite seemed muted. Overall a disappointing version of a dish I usually love.


#4

Funny thing. I are there last Friday and stopped in on Thursday to photograph the menu. The two menus were slightly different, the Friday one seeming like the beta of the one I photographed above.

Good meal all around. $42/person, including the eight dishes pictured below, four beers, a beef roll and string beans. A few of us noted that nothing was particularly heat spicy, so we confirm @geo12the’s comments. I was curious whether to lack of heat that was based on the palette of dishes chosen (e.g., nothing with fermented fave bean paste, doubanjiang) or the kitchen’s default. Even though flavors were balanced and enjoyable, I regret not sampling of dish or two before putting in the full order, and then requesting the heat to be adjusted accordingly.

They have crab right now, but the crawfish dishes they advertise in their windows are unavailable.

Spicy Beef Jerky. I’ve read about this in Fuchsia Dunlop’s Land of Plenty, but never had this dish in a restaurant. She describes the preparation as involving boiling with spices (star anise, cassia), marinating, deep frying, and then cooking simmering in a spicy, sweet, and aromatic liquid. Z&Y’s version is delicious, and another beast altogether from the processed items you get in a supermarket. Lots of seasonings to ponder, rough exterior and softer insides, a bit sweet.

Spicy numbing beef tendon.

The chef didn’t light the fuse on the Chicken with explosive Chile pepper. Succulent, not-oily and very tasty boneless deep fried chicken, but a disappointment for one of their most popular dishes. Note the color of the chilies— bright red, none of the char necessary to impart the chicken with chili flavor. I didn’t get much numbing.

A choy (off menu seasonal green) with garlic sauce.

In Royal Feast’s version, pork belly slices are rolled up and the cool fatty pork contrasts with the aromatic “garlic mud” sauce. Cucumber is on the plate as a garnish. Z&Y’s version puts the cucumber garnish front and center, draping the pork on cucumber slices, and it weakens the dish. The pork was barely noticeable against the watery crunch, and the sauce was difficult to dip into given the lack of cucumber’s pliability.

Sour bean fried rice was fine but needed more sour beans.

Spicy (yellow feather) chicken w/ peppercorns in clear broth. Wow! Minimal heat or numbing in the chicken, but oh man if that’s not the juiciest chicken ever. The server said not to drink the ‘clear broth’ ( I asked) and its viscosity suggested some kind of oil poaching liquid. I took a sip and it tasted faintly of Sichuan peppercorns.

Hot braised whole fish with Chile (duo Jiao). Catfish, firm yet creamy texture in my first bites, lovely cheeks and head to finish, covered in red and green pickled chilies. In general, do Sichuan and Hunan versions of this dish’s toppings differ? Z&Y’s was more fermenty, Wonderful’s version is sweeter and zestier.


#5

I looked back at photos and stand corrected about Royal Feast’s version of pork with garlic sauce. Chef Liu of Royal Feast does have cucumbers inside the pork, but there’s more pork than cucumber. Note also in the picture below of RF’s version all the minced garlic, for which the dish is named, and which is largely absent in Z&Y’s version.

Chef Liu at Royal Feast also gets more spicing into his in-bone Chongqing style chicken, but not so much to distract from the chicken’s flavor. Z&Y’s has more chili’s and is more Instagramworthy, but their flavors don’t add much.