January 6, 2026
a pour over at home
Jan 11, 2026.
Another suburban Starbucks order. A tall cappuccino, $5.25 CAD including tax in London, ON today. My tall cappuccino cost $3.10 CAD including tax when I started drinking coffee and cappuccino in Calgary in 2000.
Jan 13, 2026
a regular / medium sized Pret ĂĄ Manger cappuccino at a small town A & W , $4.09 CAD before tax (a little too milky/ not enough coffee:milk for me)
a cortado at a suburban Starbucks, $5.03 CAD inc tax.
What is a grande flat white? I thought flat whites had a definition which meant they are a standard size.
Cortados are always on the small size at Canadian coffee shops.
Flat Whites are usually 8 or 10 ounce servings at most independent Canadian coffee shops.
Canadian Starbucks serve flat whites in tall (12 oz), Grande 16 oz), and Venti (20 oz), and maybe also Short (8 oz). Not sure why!
My Grande Flat White is just a Starbucks 12 oz Medium Sized Flat White.
Some online sources say a Flat White should be a served in a 5 to 6 ounce cup. Itâs usually served in an 8 to 10 ounce cup in Toronto, at independents, and apparently in 12 to 20 oz cups at suburban Canadian Starbucks. LOL
Sounds like they are offering mega sizes for flat whites at Starbucks in Canada. I think UK Starbucks only does a single size for flat whites (which are still too big in my opinion - I once had a meltdown at a Starbucks because the flat white was just a milky bucket of brownish slop).
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I mostly order Cortados ($5.03) and Cappuccinos ($5.25) at Starbucks lately. Mostly to keep my order closer to $5 CAD. LOL
I alternate at indie shops, mostly cortados, flat whites, cappuccinos, occasional seasonal lattes, and iced lattes with an extra shot of espresso . (Edit:Oh, and every cardamom latte I encounter )
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Asking anything serious about coffee from Starbucks is pretty useless or as a colleague said it - Starbucks is for people who donât like coffee
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Timely.
Do you think the author turned to Hungry Onion for inspiration? it wouldnât be the first time. 
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I clearly have no standards when it comes to where I order my coffee or to what degree I might SuperSize it. 
Quelle horreur. 
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As a Canadian, I donât really care if people in Canada or outside Canada bastardize Bloody Caesars, Poutine, butter tarts, Beaver Tails, Nanaimo Bars, peameal bacon sandwiches or TourtiĂšre .
You wonât find me writing any Petty Gripes columns about that.
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Iâve been drinking Las Chicas Breakfast Blend at home the past 2 days. Itâs roasted in St Thomas, Ontario, sold by 2 Nicaraguan Canadian sisters.
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Referencing that Guardian article: https://sprudge.com/is-there-really-such-a-thing-as-a-large-flat-white-622491.html
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Clearly been a slow news week in Coffeeland.
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I wonder if any Italians have been writing about Cappuccino sizes getting out of hand. Thatâs traditionally a 5 to 6 ounce serving, too. Still is the size offered when I go to an Italian cafĂ© or restaurant in Toronto.
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cute!
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I enjoyed this Sprudge article about the flat whiteâs provenance and definition. I think the inserted respondentsâ comments were some of the best bits! (About 1/3 of the article addresses Starbucksâ interpretation of the flat white, which is skip-able. Just be sure to read the conclusions following the Starbucks section.)
My earliest recollection of a flat white was before I got my first espresso machine (ca 2006) and was making â3 tazzeâ moka coffee with added milk. Iâd become weary of my tiny milk whisk, so I was simply warming the milk and adding it to the coffee. My cousin had recently visited Australia and said it sounded exactly like the âflat whiteâ coffees heâd been introduced to there, which he described as having steamed-but-not-foamed milk. The term âflat,â in this case, meaning âwithout bubbles (or foam),â like when your carbonated beverage has âgone flat.â I donât recall him making any mention of drink size or coffee/milk ratios.
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Iâve always considered the ratios to be more important than the finished size of the coffee. When I was buying coffees from shops, my go-to was a breve. But all the local shops only made single shot 8 oz breves, which is already an out-of-balance coffee/milk ratio even with the added foam. I remember driving thru one coffee kiosk and asking for a triple-shot breve, thinking Iâd get it in the typical 8 oz cup, only to end up with a very expensive 16 oz undrinkable monstrosity. After that I learned to specify âin an 8 oz cupâ at every shop I visited.
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The original HEYTEA location, in Jiangman China.
TRIPLE MATCHA with MATCHA CREAM/JELLY
PuâERH TEA with TANGARINE PEEL ESSENCE and MILK
Founded 2012. Stores globally, including SF Bay Area
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FIFY
