The Day The Food Noise Died

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/27/health/food-noise-obesity-drugs-glp-1.html?unlocked_article_code=1.elA.SlkH.T_9oNqoLpsoz&smid=url-share

I can’t imagine not experiencing “food noise” (appetite? hunger? planning meals? √ on all three) anymore.

Perhaps to nobody’s surprise, food is one of many things that make life more enjoyable for me, and that plays a significant part in my life (travel, gatherings, etc.), my relations — how I show love and appreciation for those I care about. That includes myself.

The concept of having to force down food just to function holds absolutely zero appeal to me. I’d rather be a few pounds overweight, TBH.

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I don’t think there is all that much of a difference between being preoccupied with food prep, sourcing, etc. and the actual act of eating, which tends to be the endgame for most humans. After all, eating food is required to stay alive.

Once one has to force one’s self to eat, well, that’s not how I want to live — but I also don’t have diabetes or other weight-related health issues that require me to lose weight.

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Do you personally know anyone on these drugs?

I know several people, and not one of them is or was the equivalent of the rather silly & extreme example you used, so I can only assume you were being facetious :woman_shrugging:t2:

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Yes, I have. My father, for one.

You’re right. About everything. Glad you’re back to your old form.

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An interesting quote from the article. Reading it all before jumping to conclusions is generally a good idea.

But why would people like Ms. Parker have such thoughts?

Researchers suspect the answer lies in an elusive concept called the set point.

The idea arose from studies in the 1940s. Researchers discovered that if they got rodents to gain or lose weight, the animals would quickly return to their starting weight when the study ended. The same thing seemed to happen with people.

That led to the concept that became known as the set point. It says that each person has a weight their body naturally gravitates toward — their set point. It can change over a person’s lifetime. For some, the set point may malfunction, reaching such a high level that a person’s health is affected by excess weight.

Most every single person I know who has lost weight gained it back over time (save for my friend who’s developed an eating disorder, which is a different extreme, of course) — sometimes more than their starting point, so I find the concept intuitive and believable.

Any time a person tries to get their weight much below their set point, researchers have observed, food noise will kick in. That may be part of a physiological process. When weight is lost, the body’s metabolism slows so a person needs less food than would be expected to maintain their weight. At the same time, the researchers have noticed, food noise kicks in, compelling a person to eat more calories than the body can handle without storing some as fat. That’s why diets almost always fail in the long run.

And food noise is not restricted to people with obesity, researchers stress. Anyone can have it if their weight falls below the body’s preferred set point.

Dr. Jules Hirsch at Rockefeller University and his colleagues Dr. Rudolph Leibel and Dr. Michael Rosenbaum at Columbia saw that effect decades ago when they studied the metabolic and behavioral changes that occurred when people lost weight.

Their subjects lived at the Rockefeller hospital and stayed on a low-calorie diet until they lost at least 10 percent of their weight. Some studies involved people with obesity but others involved people of normal weight.

But although the participants’ weights were lower when they left the hospital, they had the physiological signs of starving people. Their metabolisms were low, and they dreamed and fantasized about food. And they binged when they were no longer subjected to an enforced diet. It was a condition so extreme it became called “semi-starvation neurosis.”

The situation was, Dr. Leibel said, “a perfect storm for weight regain."

I suppose when the set point is so high that it is unhealthy these drugs can help. Of course, you’re on them forever ever. Forever ever?

Forever ever.

Oddly, the food noise stopped for me before I ever took these drugs. I generally have to force myself to eat when I am long past the point of low blood sugar, tummy grumbling and feeling weak. No foods appeal to me and I have no cravings. Everything seems utilitarian. I still can’t lose weight. But there is little pleasure left with food. Maybe science should study me.

I am sorry. That sounds rather depressing.

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It was. A former chef that has lost all interest in food.

Now it’s just my normal.

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I read the attached article to Sunshine and she can relate to Ms. Parker (from the article).

She describes her “food voice” as a “Siren’s Song” calling her to the kitchen. She mentioned my Chocolate Peanut Butter Roll Candy that I make and how the Sirens tell her to get another one and another one. She knows this candy is basically fudge and one piece is more than enough, but her brain hears the song of the Sirens and she must have another piece.

On one particular day, the Sirens were very strong and she ate 10 pieces.

Personally, I don’t have this “food voice” in my head, so I cannot empathize – but I do believe it is real.

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You can stop the noise, or reduce the noise on your own because much of the noise is hype or human generated, as in easy moving digital content. I did this because I have to lose weight for medical reasons.

First, stop looking at food perm, most specially food videos. Put down the damn phone. Food porn makes you hungry and wanting. It’s a TRIGGER.

Second, admit you have a relationship with food that needs help. I did, i acknowledged I am a glutton. It’s oddly liberating. Look I’m a glutton and I will eat all that and more if left to my own devices…or until I realize it’s not good for me.

Third, find a replacement…a walk. Something not calorie related.

HO is the only food related thing I look at because much is in reading format and I can skip videos easily. It’s also a layer removed getting food porn sent to via insta. Easier to control, more thought provoking then appetite inducing.

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Not everyone has that kind of will power, clearly, and I think everyone needs to find what works best for them.

Taking a drug for the rest of my life for what would merely be cosmetic reasons is not the path I want to take, but for folks whose weight impacts their health significantly it is obviously very helpful. And necessary, in some cases.

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I agree, it’s individual and everyone has to find what works for them. I tried a bunch of different ways and diets and it took a while to figure out what worked. in fact it’s an up and down deal…you will gain weight again but then you just have to start whatever process or way works for you.

I’m at a good weight right now…but my A1C went up a bit.. So it begins AGAIN…exercise. It’s a minor drag but what’s the alternative?

So to take a step back, understand your triggers and try to eliminate the noise, or the stuff that helps power the noise.

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it wasn’t the “food noise” stopping that help me shed 20+ pounds in a couple of months, it was a total lack of appetite and feeling full all the time + the heartburn and indigestion if I forced myself to over eat or eat too late in the evening. Without the OZ I would never have lost that weight, so no regerts :smiley:

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Total lack of appetite = non-existence of food noise, but of course the other side effects didn’t help.

Or I guess they did :wink:

I had to force myself to drink water because I felt so full all the time, is that caused by silencing the “food noise “?

Clearly, everyone’s experience is different. But if you’re too full to drink water, you’re likely not fantasizing about the big meal you want to make for dinner, either.

Also, I never claimed to understand how these meds work, nor that I could explain them or have definitive answers — bit early for these meds in any event, no? I shared an article I found interesting :woman_shrugging:t2:

Glad it worked for you, and many others.