Striking the right balance between having a welcoming environment and salty language

Edited b**bs to maintain consistency. And to be honest, I no more enjoy editing people’s posts for PC’ness than any one here getting their posts edited. I don’t think the alternative of deleting everyone’s posts with mention of variations for breasts is a good solution either. Since we are getting complaints, the third alternative would be to close the thread when it veers away from food.

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And it’s so obvious which term could be safely used. See the thread’s title.

Boom.

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Can we change it to breasts instead of chest? The reason is that chest does not really mean the same thing. Breasts is the accurate term. Breasts is a medical and a anatomy term. It is technical and it is accurate.

I just think if we try to over-sanitize, then it will send a wrong message. It is as if women should be ashamed of their body parts, as if the mentioning of their body parts are dirty or something…
Thanks for considering.

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Not to state the obvious, but if we kept the focus on chicken breasts (or wings) rather than anyone else’s, that would eliminate any issues from the get-go, no?

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Right, so no Hooter references, either? Would a complete mammary ban be enough, or should all glands be kapu, too?

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Shoe on the other foot, would people be up in arms to substitute the slang term for breasts with similar slang for the male anatomy? I’m not a child, but I’m not expecting to see those words, um, pop up here, either. The name of the restaurant is Hooters, fercryin’outloud. But are we here to talk about (lowercase) hooters or what (uppercase) Hooters serves?

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I’m OK with Johnson, unit, Mini Me, The Real Brain or whatever for the male convexities. So I don’t care about other feet and shoes.

To compare Hooters (the chain) with… um… (Sampson???)… Chest bars, we would need breast-centric language to do that. Really hard to censor ‘T^!!ies’ and not sound prudish or overly PC. Just sayin’…

Maybe we need a word (how about ‘Radish’) which we can substitute for all the myriad words that make anyone uncomfortable?

Watch your footing on that slippery slope. You’re now cleaning up words that even CH doesn’t object to and words that can be heard on network tv.

We are all adults here…and if you let the fbomb fly, it doesnt make sense that t*ts would be edit worthy.

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Why didnt the person just say “hey, would you mind laying off the t#t talk, please”? I am sure folks would respect their wishes and move on. Not a biggie.

I am reminded of something that I read here, earlier. I cant remember the thread off the bat, but essentially it went like this : “please dont call me Cathy”…“Ok, sorry about that”…

THATS the way to do things.

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Interesting that there’s a
problem with t*ts but not with fucking. Just sayin’.

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I’d flag your ‘fucking’, but I worry it would be taken seriously…

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Everyone, please keep this in mind when you make a criticism of my handling of this matter- I don’t have a problem that you take issues when I make certain decisions, that’s a fact of life. But we are a small community, and you all are founding members of this community, and I ask, if you perceive issues with my handling within the community guideline set out in the FAQ, that you offer up an alternative, better solution so the community is stronger than before. I rely on all of you to build this community up as much as you rely on me to build the playground equipment up.

I will highlight the guidelines I am operating within:

“Civility – ‘Is it kind/ helpful?’ Please support a civil and respectful environment and use the forum to share knowledge skills and interests.”

This site is for age 13+. So please use language appropriate for PG13.

The park has minimal funding- leave it better than we found it.

Here’s my call to action to all of you. Please discuss your best solution to handle this.

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Sorry. I just don’t get how you one word is OK and not the other. Either neither is OK or they’re both OK … or you should give an explanation as to why one is OK and the other not. I have my own preference, which I wouldn’t impose on others, but don’t see how this squares with your own words:

“This site is for age 13+. So please use language appropriate for PG13.”

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That’s because I haven’t read the thread in detail at work. there were complaints about the specific word, so I went and dealt with it. I wasn’t aware of there were other words until it was brought up. But yes to your point, had I actually read the thread in full, they would either both be in, or out.

I have to be apologize because it isn’t HO where f*^king is used so often, it’s FTC. The one poster there, who uses it constantly, doesn’t post here. I really do have to sometimes check the URL to know where I am because of the layout being pretty much the same.

Also I suppose, in truth, PG 13 probably allows both words so long as a parent or guardian is along.

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I still cant wrap my head around the fact that someone even bothered you with such nonsense.

All they had to say was “I find the T word offensive” and I am certain that folks would respect the request and not hold it against them.

No tit for tat…:blush:

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There are pros and cons- pros is that you may potentially solve the issue, but that’s assuming everyone happens to see eye to eye on the issue or accept that different people have different tolerances. The cons is that if there are disagreements on what is and isn’t acceptable, which can be often, then it can quickly escalate into a complete mess.

Let’s see: http://youtu.be/zYBA1GQf5WQ

“Please get it together!”

Let grownups talk like grownups – that’s all. The F-bomb has been allowed in PG-13 movies, and t*ts is so commonplace it truly amazes me that someone was so mortally offended that could even muster the click. Don’t get me wrong – it’s not anywhere to be found on my list of 100 most-favorite words, but seriously, is THAT the hill you wanna die on?

The f-bomb-happy poster over on FTC doesn’t offend me – his overuse of the word (IMO) very strongly suggests that he has nothing more important to say, so filling it full of noise makes it seem more important, but I don’t think he should be censored or banned. (Asked to grow up and write like a grownup rather than a swear-happy 12-year-old, maybe, but not censored or banned.) People say he’s got a great writing style, but I’m just not going to go to the work of sifting out the excess to get to what he’s trying to say. I’d feel the same way if he peppered his posts with Geez, or stinkin’ or if he, in person, filled his speech with y’know and like.

This particular thread is about Hooters – in and of itself a slang term for human mammary glands. There is really no way to discuss the place without bringing up mammary glands, and the tenor of the discussion was about their use as a tip-enhancement tool for tips/customer traffic/etc. (and I’m a little amused that living in the middle of Hooters’ home territory, I haven’t heard this much kerfuffle about this issue in years - it’s just a wing joint these days) If someone is offended by the word tits, then they should have steered away from this conversation from the get-go – not requested that adults talking about the restaurant and the culture surrounding its success have their keyboards washed out with soap – after the conversation had been going for a few days.

It’s all about context and intent – and the use of tits and boobs in this conversation was not there to shock or offend.

You said that you wanted the forum PG-13 – people over 13 cuss, and people over 13 use grownup language sometimes (whether obscenity or words having a sexual connotation). Should the situation arise where someone is blatantly and gratuitously using foul language with the sole intent of offending, then it may have to be revisited. (by the way – I am in NO WAY suggesting that any kind of hate-type speech – anything used as a slur – against men, women, races, religions, lifestyle choices, political leanings, etc – should be tolerated at all – THAT is pretty universally offensive and absolutely doesn’t fit into “nice” or “normal adult speech.”_

At the end of the day, it’s your forum, and therefore your right to do whatever you see fit – but someone is going to scream offense (real or imagined) no matter what language you allow or don’t allow.

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