Salzburg and Graz recommendations

We’re going to be visiting Graz in June for a wedding, but will also be hitting Salzburg and Vienna during our Austria sojourn. I see Vienna recs from last year, so any recs for the other 2 cities will be much appreciated, especially breakfast places/cafes.

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There is no shortage of pastry shops/cafes in any of these places but breakfast is not much of a thing - most hotels will offer something in the morning ( if you are staying in a hotel). You will certainly find croissants and delicious coffee readily.

Of course there is always the very rich and delicious kaiserscharrm (a bit like a glorified french toast) to tempt you during brunch hours https://viennawurstelstand.com/guide/best-kaiserschmarrn-in-vienna/

Suggest you take the train from Salzburg to the Tennergau region, around 20-30 min by train from Salzburg (every 20 min). Some of the most highly regarded restaurants in the Salzburg region are Dollerers and Obauer. You can stay the night there or take the train back.

In my experience, hotels in Vienna/Salzburg tend to include a very nice breakfast buffet (or at a minimum, a continental breakfast). I would check with your accommodations before looking for outside breakfast restaurants.

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Not sure if I would agree as many hotels have very good breakfast buffets (and also often the chance to order a la carte)

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I wish we could do that, but we just won’t have the time. :frowning:

Hotel breakfast buffets are currently running around an extra 20-22 euros per person per day. As we don’t have the budget for that, we’re planning on getting breakfast out.

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It’s been far too long since I was in Salzburg, so I have no specific recommendations, but cafe culture in Austria (at least in the cities) is yuuuge. No doubt you’ll find several nice cafes where you can have breakfast for far less than that.

Easy to do in an evening as well. No need to spend the night. Trains leave every 30 min at night to return to the city.

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I find the pastry shops ( Konditorei) and some bakeries in Austria have amazing pastries and sandwiches, that can make a nice breakfast. Some also serve breakfast. If you’re watching your budget, it’s cheaper to take the food as well as coffee, to go, and enjoy them in a park or your hotel room. It costs more to eat in the room with service, that’s often attached to the bakery or pastry shop.

If you like meringue, try Salzburger Nockerl after lunch or dinner at some point.

https://www.austria.info/en-us/recipes/salzburger-nockerl/

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thats a ridiculous price - I guess it depends on the hotel you are staying at…luxury hotels can charge anything.
Here are just a couple of places that we had noted for a visit to Salzburg that seem to offer breakfast - Im sure there are plenty of additional options
Afro Cafe https://afrocoffee.com/en/afro-cafe-salzburg/#anchor-download
Cafe Tomaselli at the Old Market https://tomaselli.at/de

and here you could get a delicious pastry and coffee here https://schatz-konditorei.at/

As to Vienna, its going to matter where you are staying - google maps has gotten pretty good for this kind of search.

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I dont remember whether I posted this info previously but thought I would stick it here. We gave these reccs to the a friend and he enjoyed too.

In Vienna, we went to traditional places, Plachutta for tafelspitz, excellent, and amazing collection of photos on the way to the facilities of prior patrons, from Rolling Stones to Vladimir Putin: Pfarrwirt,in Heiligenstadt, near the Beethoven Museum , after walking down from the Kahnenberg
a lovely country inn setting in their garden (this was in June): and The White Chimney Sweep https://weisser-rauchfangkehrer.at/en/ another historic restaurant in the center. We were staying up in Neubau and wound up eating in most nights - it was during the heat wave. In that area I had tagged a couple of places we did not go to http://www.gasthaus-gruenauer.com/ and Cafe Phonixhof, http://www.phoenixhof.at/ . I was interested in trying this Hungarian place inside the Ring, Ilona Stueberl, https://www.ilonastueberl.at/ but it was closed when we visited. We went to Sacher for some coffee and a piece of pastry (not the sacher torte) the atmosphere and decor there were really something. But there are many many simple winetavens and bistros and non- Austrian restaurants as well.

Those prices are what non-fancy hotels are charging for breakfast. That must be the going rate in Austria.

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We really liked the Taflespitz at Plachutta but for local Viennese specialties we really liked Stasta. By far the best schnitzel (even though they aren’t specialist) goulash , roast goose and duck, among other things.

It’s a bit farther out, English surprisingly limited, but a high quality cooking and nice atmosphere.

Understood. DM me if your plans change and you have 4-5 hours in the evening.

yikes! the days of the coffee, croissant and maybe some cake or fruit included in the room rate must be over

I think that would be the going rate.

I was paying around that much as a supplement for breakfast in 2019, in Austria and in Bavaria. I really like the hotel breakfast buffets in Austria, Germany, Italy and Greece. I tend to go close to the end of service, have a big breakfast, do a piece of cake and a coffee around 4 pm, then a nice dinner, when I’m in Austria.

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This is the way….