Lawsuit Claims Costco Roast Chicken Has Preservatives

The claim seems like a total reach to me. The two ingredients in question are carrageenan, which I’m very familiar with and is definitely not a preservative, and sodium phosphate, which I just had to google, but also doesn’t appear to be a preservative.

I guess it depends on how you define “preservative”; if you stretch the meaning a bit it could work, since both ingredients appear to be used to hold moisture longer in the product thereby “preserving” its state, but I really don’t think that’s how the food industry or consumers in general understand the term. If so we could say the same about table salt…which, of course, is regularly employed as an actual preservative! But salt doesn’t have a scary chemical name so it must be okay :melting_face:

The litigants in this case are quite busy . . . besides Costco they’ve filed lawsuits against cars-dot-com, Adobe, Capital One, Lume Deodorant, Dr. Broner’s Toothpaste, and others within the last year or two.

Ahh, lovely. Exactly what our judicial system was created for, I’m sure.

1 Like

No beef (or chicken) in this fight but phosphates and carrageenan are often used as preservatives in the food industry

https://www.fsis.usda.gov/food-safety/safe-food-handling-and-preparation/food-safety-basics/additives-meat-and-poultry

And yes, water holding capabilities are part of the preservation “arsenal” of these compounds. If Costco would add them to their chicken I think saying it is without preservatives is a bit of a stretch

Not all additives are preservatives.

But phosphates and carrageenan are known and used as preservatives in meat

I don’t agree that carrageenan is a preservative in any sense in which I would use the term “preservative.” Which is to say, it doesn’t help prevent spoilage. Again, if you stretch the meaning of preservative then all sorts of things can be added to the list, carrageenan included. But that’s an awfully slippery slope. You’d have to include all forms of thickeners, emulsifiers, and moisture retention agents, up to and including common salt, and then basically nothing could ever be called “preservative free.”

In any case, the FDA has apparently thought about this to some degree, at some point. I don’t know when this list was last updated and of course anyone may or may not trust the federal government to get this right, but … https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-21/chapter-I/subchapter-B/part-182/subpart-D?toc=1

Would you consider salt a preservative then?

It’s basically ubiquitous in almost any packaged food, ultra processed or otherwise.

The main effect of carrageenan in meat is by binding water and leading to moisture retention and thereby extending shelf life - that’s a preservative for me

1 Like

some time back I read an article about a NYC lawyer.
he went up and down every street, looking for businesses that were not handicapped/wheelchair/ramp accessible.

he made his living suing those businesses - most ‘settled’ out-of-court.
the lawyer had zerocommazilch ‘public interest’ - he merely sued businesses he knew would settle and pay him a couple bucks.

nothing to see here, move along folks . . .

2 Likes

Absolutely, see my first post in this thread :slight_smile:

… but does that mean that nothing with salt should be labeled as “preservative-free?” For the average consumer, I don’t think that’s exactly the intent.

1 Like

Yes

If that’s the case, then the law needs to be re-written.

And that’s what these lawsuits are intended to do, whether those pariah plaintiffs lawyers know it or not.

That seems to be how the law is already written.

101.22(a)(5)
The term chemical preservative means any chemical that, when added to food, tends to prevent or retard deterioration thereof, but does not include common salt, sugars, vinegars, spices, or oils extracted from spices, substances added to food by direct exposure thereof to wood smoke, or chemicals applied for their insecticidal or herbicidal properties.

I’m glad pesticides are not considered preservatives. (sarcasm?)

1 Like

The poor plaintiffs seem to seek a court order that they can buy more cheap Costco cooked chicken without worrying/hand-wringing that preservatives won’t diminish the deal of not cooking for themselves – likely a larger risk. Of course, high powered lawyer taking case on the come isn’t plaintiffs’ concern?

There used to be a guy here in Northern California who did quite well for himself doing that, too. I think he was a wheelchair user himself, but ISTR he never visited some of the businesses he sued. Part of his business model was to have staff members report to him if a business they visited had accessibility issues. I know of one restaurant that closed instead of either defending themselves or settling. I’m sure there were others.

2 Likes