Wow, you just never know do you. This stuff is coming out everywhere.
Wow.
Kitchens are notoriously unpleasant environments and the industry has long put up a front of âthat is just how kitchens areâ. I wonât be surprised if more issues donât come up in the kitchen/restaurant arena.
For sure, kitchens are not for the faint of heart!
I read about this two days ago, and here is the culmination. The piss-off is that he really sold himself as the family man, marrying his high school sweetheart, and raising his 4 boys like he was raised. Why canât men with power just keep it in their pants? Nauseating.
Exactly. Thatâs why I am surprised - but I guess I shouldnât be at this point!
Fixed that for you. 'Cuz itâs not just about pants or their contents.
What else is new? Every time some suit resigns from his job or board in the face of criminal charges or other immorality revelations, he cites the desire to spend more time with his family. The public is shocked, and I donât mean Inspector Reynaud shocked. YawnâŚ
I too heard about it on Sunday nightâs ABC News. Was so very disappointed, and then Monday morning, he resigns to âbe with his familyâ. The asshole should have been with his family instead of he and his partner using their power to hurt others who had no repercussion but to resign.
I still am in shock that he ONLY hired an HR Director as of October 11th. And I feel very sorry for her.
I"m not personally familiar with John Besh however I donât think anyone should be shocked by this regardless who the individual involved is. The restaurant business is a hot-bed of sexual harassment and lascivious behavior. As a person who has worn both hats throughout his life ( corporate and restaurant) I can say unequivocally the sexual tensions are far higher in a restaurant environment than corporate.
The biggest difference in my opinion is that in the corporate world you probably find all unsolicited sexual harassment / advances 90% of the time the perpetrator is male. In the restaurant business I would say that number is closer to 70-75%. In the restaurant business I would say that you will find a higher instance of woman being involved in unsolicited sexual advances in the vs. corporate, which is the nature of the beast.
Iâm with you right until the last line. Abuse shouldnât (and hopefully wonât be going forward), considered the inevitable standard.
Yeah, the only surprising thing is that someone under 50 and with 12 restaurants hasnât evolved to realizing that screwing your employees, even if youâre sure its consensual, is a bad idea.
Your âsexual tensionâ is another personâs fear of coercion or assault. Just saying.
With all due respect I take exception to you personalizing it by addressing that to me by; âYour sexual tensionâ. Iâm speaking on behalf of my observations of industry I have been associated with for 40+ years, NOT my personal dealings. I would kindly ask you to rephrase that to, âThe sexual tensionâ.
Agreed, but unfortunately as of the time of this post, it is the industry norm.
Iâm sorry I hurt your feelings with the phrasing. I could have chosen âone manâsâ instead, Insuppose. However, this is not an impersonal âsexual tensionâ but a very grounded way in which you characterised what you called, in the previous sentence, âsexual harassmentâ. There are those of us who would not even have chosen that term (âsexual tensionâ to start with.
Iâd also suggest you not make is about you. Too often women have to be so careful about menâs feelings whilst addressing a context that normalises are constant assault and harassment.
Yeah, itâs all fun and games except when itâs not. What anyone in business should know and convey to all their staff is that the times when itâs not arenât worth the times when it is.
For me, sometimes it has been fun and games, sometimes it has been not. And Iâve surely committed sins of my own, getting caught up in it all. Trying to prove Iâm not uptight by being just as perverted and crude as everyone else. The âbro cultureâ cited in the article is one reason I started my own company and got out of pastry chef-ing. Line cooks all tend to be younger guys and I kept getting older and less amused by dicks on everything.
That is exactly my point, Iâm not making it about me, you did.