Insular crowd

:thinking:Not sure calling anyoneā€“even banana eatersā€“racist is ok.

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Yes, I noted relatively recently just how baffled I am by the vitriol that cookware can induce.

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Iā€™m too far from a nerd to geek out on cookware, let alone get into heated arguments over it.

Now, whether caraway belongs in sauerkrautā€¦ thatā€™s a whole other story :wink:

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Some might argue that everyone here is a food nerd of some variety or other.

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Mute is a remarkably helpful feature, both for threads that one finds irksome or doesnā€™t like the direction of, and also for users.

That said, thereā€™s a difference between aspects of food being inherently political and wanting to make every discussion on a food forum political.

For those who seek the latter, there must exist political fora that can include a discussion of food politics. Moderators there are likely more willing to deal with how charged the discussions might inevitably get.

How to tell if someone is more interested in a political discussion than a food discussion? If they mostly participate in threads that veer that way, or intentionally take other threads there (and then complain that others donā€™t want to engage in a political discussion, which is what started us down this particular road).

Easy to check oneā€™s own posts and figure out if they are more about food or more about the politics of food and spend oneā€™s time accordingly.

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Letā€™s face it. A bunch of cookware/knife enthusiasts migrated here from CH. Brought their ā€œenthusiasmā€ with them. It didnā€™t quite mesh with people here. Beats me how who I assume are grown men can argue back and forth in depth over knives and pots and pans.

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Itā€™s all fun & games as long as nobody loses an eye :wink:

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In the generic, hypothetical sense, it would be.

Just like it is copacetic to say ā€œthose that hate green people are racistā€ it would be ok to say ā€œbanana eaters are racistsā€.

You arenā€™t necessarily saying anyone in particular is racist, just that if anyone were to hate green people, then they would be racist.

So to bring it back full circle, one could presumably say here ā€œif anyone eats bananas then they must be a flaming leftist liberalā€ without it being an automatic red flag, but it would not be ok to say ā€œif you gaffk believe that people who eat bananas are flaming leftist liberals then you are the fecal matter of feral pigs.ā€

hmmmmm . . . :thinking: :thinking: :thinking:

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Now this thread has gone down the hell hole. Thanks to you. A moderator.

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I try my best!

I have to hand it to you. Good comeback.

Interestingly, caraway was contentious in my house because my mom (Scottish/English extraction) didnā€™t like it, but my dad (half Polish/French-Canadian) thought it was fine. My grandmother, fully first generation Polish American, made food that had caraway where it was supposed to be (as far as she was concerned, anyway). It was one of the first (but not last) disagreements with my mother.

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Forking and knifing you feels just not enough, yet I have nothing better to say at the moment but forks and knifes up!

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Was just thinking about caraway the other night, and how little of it I use. I do like it sparingly in appropriate things, but itā€™s definitely been an acquired taste. Went out to dinner at a new place the other night, and for the first time ever, had beef on weck, after hearing about it for years. The wreck had a lot of caraway, but would say I did like the sandwich quite a bit, and finally got to try it. It was the first time Iā€™ve seen it on a menu, in all the places Iā€™ve lived. Admittedly these places just include the west, southwest, and Alaska pretty much. Far away from beef on weck territory!
ETA: sorry for the thread driftā€¦

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Iā€™m mostly in agreement with all that you wrote. My observation leads me to believe that of the people who want to ward off any discussion that hints at politics, some of them

  1. are apprehensive about things getting heated and angry words being exchanged, which interferes with the generally congenial tone of this site. This is a legit worry - weā€™ve all seen it happen. But the way to avoid things getting heated is toā€¦not get heated.

  2. enjoy the luxury of being relatively unaffected by politics and donā€™t like being reminded that others donā€™t. This is less legit, according to me. Because, as many have pointed out, we are capable of ignoring posts* weā€™d rather not engage with or even read all the way through. But to complain that people are discussing something youā€™d prefer not to think about - and Iā€™ve seen that here, too - seems like asking the world to protect you when youā€™re perfectly capable of protecting yourself.

*and here Iā€™ll throw in the obligatory exception for personal insults and abusive language

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Thank you. I am in full agreement with your observations, and am grateful for the eloquence of point 2.

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Itā€™s one of very few things I donā€™t like very much, or only in very few contexts - like a pastrami on rye. That might actually be the only occasion I can abide caraway. Otherwise, that nasty shit ruins everything it touches. Seulement pour moi, natch :wink:

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It is an essential flavor of the classic:

https://www.schwabls.com/menu/

The second classic stop of tourist Buffalo two-step is Frank and Terresaā€™s:

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Yep, now that is one culinary contribution from that part of the world thatā€™s certainly made its mark, at least nationally, probably Canada too, if not beyond. Was gifted a bottle of the Anchor hot sauce once, good stuff.

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