My mom would boil the tongue whole, remove the skin, cut the meat into bite-sized morsels and continue to simmer them in a sauce made with beef broth, a healthy glug of Madeira, and cream. She also often would add mushrooms, and it was served over potatoes.
Yes, that’s right. I didn’t want to say “white” or “caucasian”. What I was getting at is that myself and the other “American” were the only 2 born in the US. I’m sorry if my somewhat poor choice of words seemed prejudicial or discriminatory, but I had ZERO intention of doing that.
Harters
(John Hartley - a culinary patriot, cooking and eating in northwest England)
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Sliced tongue is commonly available in UK supermarkets, in amongst the sandwich meats. Pork and ox tongue are both on sale. I love it smeared with English mustard.
I get that, and I hope you don’t think I was taking you to the woodshed over it. I feel pretty strongly, however, when people equate “American” with “white”. Doing so diminishes the American-ness of non-white Americans. In ‘wokespeak’, it’s a microaggression. IMHO, you’d have been better off saying “white” or “caucasian”.
In general, I try not to label or categorize people by race or ethnicity. I was never really like that before moving to extremely homogeneous Japan where (and I’m NOT exaggerating here) nearly everyone is labeled or categorized as being Japanese or foreign. Even those born in Japan to naturalized citizens of Japan are almost universally treated that way there. It’s one reason I never even thought about naturalizing myself when I lived there (the other big reason is the high cost for a US citizen to renounce their citizenship).
Personally, I think I just should have written “those of us born in the states” or “those of us not born overseas”, but even then it could be a thorny situation.
The anxiety of these situations is a good example of why I just tend to be “on the outside looking in” rather than comment on posts here or elsewhere because the last thing an increasingly introverted person like myself wants to be is an instigator.
But though I’m not nearly as successful as I’d like to be, I DO try to balance the pros and cons of things of my actions before I do them. I think that started with my decision to lose weight back in 2010. Much of the time, the benefits far outweigh the negative aspects of my action.
I used to be quite impulsive and paid for it…both literally and figuratively. The stress and anxiety of having to think before acting is often great, though. I’m good at thinking before writing…but not nearly as good as it I should be when opening my mouth.
That being said, this is first and foremost a food-based site and I don’t feel right using it as a soapbox for airing my issues. Yes, you and MANY others have shown me extreme kindness in accepting me and my thoughts and feelings, but undoubtedly there are those I’ve alienated by wearing my heart on my sleeve and as I don’t want to alienate anyone here, this shall be my last comment about such issues.
just as aside, in the current woke situation, it’s pretty much no longer possible to write or say anything that someone does not take offense to . . . .
If you say so. But I think you might overestimate your comments’ effects on anyone here.
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Harters
(John Hartley - a culinary patriot, cooking and eating in northwest England)
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As I understand it, “woke” has replaced “politically correct” as the insult of choice directed towards anyone with marginally more progressive/liberal opinions than you have. I don’t think I’ve ever come across use of the word in a positive way by, say, someone saying “Oh, yes, I’m very woke”. I suppose I’m just getting old and set in my ways but I knew where I was with “political correctness”
I agree with you in that I try not to categorize by race or ethnicity too, unless it’s the most effective way to differentiate people. I much rather call out “the tall guy” or “the unibrow”, as opposed to “the black/asian/latino/whatever person”. The problem though, is when you say “American” when you mean “white”, it immediately creates an in-group (white Americans) and an out-group (non-white Americans). As a member of the latter, I take offense at the implication that I am somehow less American because of the color of my skin.
I certainly don’t mean to add to your anxiety, and deeply apologize if I have. And I think I understand your experiences in Japan: even though I look like one of them, I know I would never be considered one of them. Japanese can tell just by looking at me that I wasn’t born and raised there.
my father was the same way about spice cake. loved it until he found out it was really pumpkin bread — never ate another bite.
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Harters
(John Hartley - a culinary patriot, cooking and eating in northwest England)
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I tend to say/write “Anglo” when I mean white Britons, to differentiate from Britons of colour . So, I might say, about our favourite restaurant in Chinatown that almost all the customers are Anglo (as some other restaurants have a mainly Chinese customer base). Hopefully, it doesnt give offence to anyone.