China trade deal imported chicken ... UGH

I didn’t think things could get worse in regard to the quality or lack there of, of chicken available at supermarkets the US
http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/analysis-the-dark-side-of-trump’s-much-hyped-china-trade-deal-it-could-literally-make-you-sick/ar-BBDWVON?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp

Hmmm. Reason #1,237 why i’m (still) a vegetarian. :stuck_out_tongue:

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F that . So gross . I will never eat a chicken imported from China . What he have here is already puke . No dirty birds .:mask:

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I think Chinese chickens bred for the US would be substantially different from Chinese chickens bred for Chinese. Chicken I have eaten bred from China taste superior than the US factory farmed chicken. Of course, the breeds are different and are mostly the ‘yellow feather’ chicken variety that are bred for flavor but not for the volume of meat like in the US. Now, if they adopt the same factory farming technique to breed for the US, that’s a totally different matter.

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The chickens are still grown in US, Canada, or Brazil (iirc), just processed/cooked in China. Which makes it slightly better perhaps, except for the carbon footprint and potential for disruptions in the cold chain as they are shipped back and forth around the world. I’ll stick with locally grown AND processed, thanks.

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I have absolutely nothing against China. But when did the processed/cooked become so expensive here that we need to ship to another country to do it? I understand iPhone, but chicken?

In addition, the article does state. Chinese grown chicken. “The Department of Agriculture has since proposed a rule allowing Chinese-raised chicken into the United States, which could be finalized by the end of the year…”

Thanks for the correction on where the birds can be raised.

I guess it’s worth the tons of jet fuel and $200/hr for a pilot to fly a 747 full of birds to a place where you can pay people a few dollars a day instead of $7.25 an hour (or whatever the federal minimum wage is) when you’re dealing with high enough volume? So much for keeping jobs in the US …

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I can’t understand this sentiment and find it rather dismaying.

Firstly, I can’t understand why you would prefer the government to make a choice about what you are permitted to eat, rather than making the choice yourself. If you have a problem with Chinese or foreign food, you are always free to choose domestic food. Personally, I don’t want the government to decide what I should eat, and nor would I want to impose my fiat upon what other people choose to eat.

Secondly, I think it evidences a sad nationalistic provincialism which has become all too common in many parts of the world. People are often quite sure of the parade of horribles that wait for them in foreign places, with foreign people, and with foreign food, and seem certain that they live in the best place in the world, with the best people, and the nicest and purest food. Personally, I rather doubt the correctness of that sort of stereotypical thinking.

I would be very, very happy to be able to access Chinese products, including Chinese produce, and I hope that you won’t try to restrict my own – and many others – personal preferences. China has been a convenient whipping boy for nationalists for centuries, keeping out Chinese people, Chinese products, and here Chinese food, but I would have hoped that we could get beyond such narrow thinking in 2017.

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I have no dog in this race, 'cause I don’t eat chicken from anywhere. But as per the article linked to in the OP: “Chicken from China will not be labeled, and a representative from Qingdao Nine-Alliance Group, the first exporter, did not specify the name brand it’s being sold under.” That means that you won’t have the opportunity to make a choice yourself, because you won’t know the provenance of the chicken you buy.

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Bingo!

You are misunderstanding how it will be labelled – all agricultural products sold in the United States must have a label of origin – but anybody can decide to buy their chicken in a place which does denote the label, and refuse to buy chicken of such dubious origin – as you can today.

The article is pure demagoguery, preying on xenophobic fears. The Dark Side? Really!

China and the Chinese have been vilified and marginalized for their food since the earliest days of the United States. Throughout U.S. history, the Chinese have been dehumanized by claims that their food is not fit for good Christian American souls – and still vilified by phantom fears about such pseudo-scientific nonsense as “MSG Syndrome.” China has food safety problems, and so does the USA (the produce of which is similarly banned in many parts of the world, and usually for equally nonsensical reasons with more basis in protectionism than science). As a free person, who cooks and lives and breathes food culture, I should decide what I and my family get to eat, and not the government, self-interested scare mongers, or xenophobes.

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I have nothing against the Chinese.

My Chinese ex-boyfriend of 8 years, who grew up in Hong Kong, told me never to buy food products made in China. He said the sources were unreliable. I even recall him pulling a “made in China” product from my pantry and telling me about some problem ingredient in it and that I shouldn’t be using it.

I used to eat White Rabbit candies until the melamine recall.

A colleague of mine and her husband run a company that exports many Canadian products to China because the demand for Canadian food products, particularly infant formula, is so high because they don’t trust their own supplies.

I agree with you that a free person should be able to decide what his or her family should eat but the government food inspection and health agencies also have a responsibility to protect the public.

On the bright side, I do not eat processed chicken products regardless of where they are made or any frozen chicken for that matter.

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Well, because we are not always informed. Now, if someone nationalistic about something, then they will simply not eat the chicken from China, and that’s that. The bigger question in my mind is really people who would and are willing to eat foods from China (or other countries) and yet these other countries may not have the same standard. In short, people may not have the full information to make that decision.

This is not against China or any other country at all. I am just saying that we cannot live in a fully government control society nor a completely government free society. We rely on the FDA to approve a drug for say treating cancer. We don’t just decide on our own.

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I don’t know. Apparently you are against something about him. :stuck_out_tongue:

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No, not at all. Very nice guy- I just wasn’t in love with him. No spark.

Come on. No spark for 8 years? And then you decided to move on. Clearly, you thought you like him, and then realize that you don’t. Maybe just like my feeling toward lobster rolls…

No, he was a boyfriend for 8 years with long distance until the last two and then I decided, he wasn’t the one I wanted to marry.

Yeah. Sound exactly how I felt about my lobster roll today. I always wanted to eat a lobster roll I just ate a $35 lobster roll, and in all places, Cambridge Massachusetts too. While I was good, it didn’t fall in love. So… I probably won’t marry Miss Lobster Roll.

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Try the lobster roll at Luke’s Lobster on 7th Street in the East Village. For my taste, butter, no mayo.

“Food is a pretty good prism through which to view humanity.”

― Jonathan Gold