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In-N-Outās certainly not the first company of itās type to find California very difficult to function in. I recall that CKE (Carlās Jr.) did the same thing years ago, citing that a new location took 6 months of red tape in CA vs 6 weeks in other states.
Snyder is very conservative politically (and that could be part of her move) but she doesnāt seem to be focused on that. They have hundreds of locations in CA and she wants to expand elsewhere. Her public statements IMHO donāt warrant her being āturned onā.
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I n O is a good value and freshly made but I rarely go because of the crazy linesā¦and long wait. It is NOT fast foodā¦and I can get better for not much moreā¦but good for them.
As for Californians turning on the CEOā¦I donāt know anyone who cares if she leaves California. She can do as she wishes and it has zero effect on me and the core of the business is still in California.
Hope she enjoys Tennessee or wherever.
I saw this one yesterday.
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IF they leave California, itāll only be at the corporate level. They canāt possibly afford to shutter all their California locations. Talk about shitting in your own messkit!
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If you want to go to really fast food, then go to a Mcdonalds right across from an In n Out.
Long lines at the In n Out, but the Mcdonalds is deserted.
HQ stays in California. Sheās and her family are moving.
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Itās fast food the way shake shack and five guys are fast food. They are just more obvious about their politics. And customers have the right to make decisions how they spend their money the more they learn about the company.
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Thatās a fair point. These days, a companyās values, political or otherwise, are more visible, and people do take that into account when deciding where to spend their money. Itās similar across a lot of brands now, not just food. Some folks care deeply, others donāt, it just depends on the individual.
To clarify, In and Out is fast food in operationsā¦but itās not fast to go there. Itās a 15 wait if youāre lucky, and then thereās the cars around the block stuff. When itās jammed, could be 20-30 minutes if youāre inside. Thatās why I avoid it. Dislike lines.
As for the politics, Iām on the opposite end from their CEO, owner. But I appreciate some stuff like provide a very good burger for a reasonable price, keep prices downā¦and they traditionally have paid their employees above minimum wage way before the pandemic and recent push and laws to pay more. In the 90s they paid double or more than minimum wage.
The new fast food minimum wage laws (in CA) have caught up in hourly wage but I n O didnāt fight it and they didnāt reduce staff as a cop out like a lot of places. Give them credit for that. If they start hacking hours and wages, and goes full disposable workers or the no counter person or the kiosk model, Iāll change my opinion.
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This is reporting on a Reddit threads and Threads posts, in some cases using āupvotesā as metrics of depth and scope of the issue.
Some people are grumbling, playfully or not, about leaving the state, and this has been turned into a story with indication this comes out of some deep political schism. (Of course, everything is politics including the choice of where to centre oneās business-- but this is one of those stories thatās reporting on social media more than it is a significant conflict between a company and its patrons brought about by politics.
ETA: Not to say Iām judging you MrGuyGuyGuy for posting this, but this seems like one of those stories that also arises from financial circumstances (so much easier/cheaper to report on social media blow outs than it is to do investigation and reportage. Iām fascinated by these items which are part of a landscape of cuts to the fourth estate.
Itās interesting how the Fourth Estate is really only now understanding how to adapt to and manage social media as a news source, because in reality thatās now where most ānewsā comes from. In many cases it appears itās too little, too late.
