Anybody growing aliums?


Thant was great; thanks! Our conditions may not have too much in common, but I can relate to the he pros and cons . I “break up” with them off and on.


(Robert Sacilotto) #19

Good info all! I’ve grown Music garlic and it’s a reliable producer of high quality bulbs. Duganski is also a favorite, beautiful striped wrappers, keeps like a dream and rich garlic flavor.

The link and any information on bulb-forming onions is important; day length consideration is critical to success. One can ask local Agricultural Extension agents for recommendations.

For those of you who haven’t discovered Seeds of Italy, I’ve ordered a lot of seeds from them, over the years. Great company, high quality seeds and the seed packets are almost always more generous than other companies. Their collection of vegetables reflects the Italians’ love of great food. Unfortunately, Italian vegetable breeders have not received the recognition they deserve. They were pioneers in developing sweet peppers and tomatoes, when the rest of the Europe and the US thought tomatoes were toxic. The Chicory, Radicchio, Endive varieties are staggering.

Leeks take forever to grow! Guess that explains their cost. You MUST start seeds, often under lights, late winter, so you’re putting out good-sized seedlings. Rich soil, regular “hilling” to extend, blanch stalks, lots of weeding, feeding and water all season long, for harvest in the fall-winter. You have to really want to grow them!

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I’ve grown Music too! I used to get Piatta di Bergamo, also an intermediate day cippolini, and I used to get my favorite bean seed from then, but then something happened and they stopped carrying it. Got some tomato seed in the past as well (I saw them dried on the vine in acooking show!), but without the favas, I started ordering elsewhere.

Beutiful catalogue!



Duganski looks like a winner - I will have to check it out next year. Perhaps it will replace the Russian Red in my lineup!



I don’t. They’re leftovers from my mom, who I think just got a few plants from her friends. That’s how she gets all her seeds – she and her friends all trade seeds and seedlings for whatever they want to grow.

They’re quite hardy though. While each of my plants are small and much thinner than the kinds at the markets, they’re remarkably fragrant and more “onion”-y. They do have a small bulb, but not as large as I’ve seen with actual spring onions.

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Garlic half way there; new promix in Earth boxes , Creole garlic varieties soaking in seaweed and baking powder solution, to be followed with brief dip in rubbing alcohol solution.

I know it’s controversial, but I have issues.

Also have chives and cipollinis, and will add red and yellow shallots soon.

I’m in N Cal wishful East Bay but more like Central Valley climate.

@bogman; when do you put up the remay/net proteciton against the root maggot? Is there a stage when they are more vulnerable?



I have only replanted the root end of green onions. They grow to look like small leeks

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Put out garlic last week, shallots today.

UC Master Gardener Program of Sonoma County

How to grow shallots;



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Jealous. Mine were under about 1-2 inches of ice as of yesterday morning, though we’re finally getting a warm spell that should melt that today.



I’ve got two types of onion seedlings ordered…not having them shipped until mid-March. Probably can’t plant them until late April with our weather.


(Eileen Schwab) #31

I wish to heck I could figure out growing chives in southern AZ. Winter, summer,it all seems to annoy chives. Does anybody have good advice for me?



I think of chives as a winter/spring thing, and I grow them in containers, from seedlings in containers. I don’t separate them;I just put the whole clump in a pot. They “bolt/bloom” in summer here, but the flowers are edible. What is your winter/spring weather like?


The Gardening Cook



Foiled again! Every year I lose some garlic to something that starts with yellow leaf tips, followed by plants that seem to tip over, stems sometimes curve, as if one side of the stem is growing faster, and sometimes die. I’ve tried just about everything I can to. Think of, growing in carefully cleaned containers

with fresh pro-mix, and cloves from reputable dealers, and soaked as directed here.

Since fungal diseases are so common, I think it is a good idea to assume all incoming garlic to be planted has a problem of some kind even if there is no evidence of it and soak it overnight the night before planting in a solution of one gallon of water, one tablespoon each of baking soda and liquid seaweed to give it an innoculation against diseases and an energy boost as well to get the growing process off to a good start (The seaweed stimulates root growth.) Be careful not to leave the garlic soaking too long - 16-18 hours is enough and if you leave it in much longer it will already start to grow roots and I have seen 1/4 " long roots on cloves after soaking 24 hours - not good as those roots break off during planting inviting pathogen invasion. I then soak it in alcohol for a few minutes just before planting to try to kill any unseen hitchhikers, like mites, stowing away between the wrappers. One of the reasons to soal the garlic so long is to loosen the clove covers so that the alcohol can penetrate the clove covers and kill any mites lurking inside the clove covers.

I think it’s basal rot. Here’s a picture; you can see healthy roots toward the bottom,watery, flat roots at the top.

I’ve pulled out any with yellow leaf tips. One or two had a hint of what must be a white fungus. So maybe it’s two things. Dang!

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A few garlic bulbs I planted last fall have started to peep through in one patch, but I planted two rows in a new planter box that aren’t showing anything. We had a colder and snowier March, so it was recently that the snow finally all melted away and temperatures have been warmer. Do you think those bulbs could have survived?



I guess there are places that get colder than I can even imagine, but I would say it’s unlikely that co!d would be a problem. Forme, being to wet seems to be a problem. I would absolutely give them more time. How deep did you plant them? What are your night and day temps right now? Do you know what varieties you planted, or if they are hardneck or soft neck?



I just got my two bundles of onion starts yesterday. Probably be a month before I can plant them :frowning:



It’s still slightly below freezing to maybe slightly above freezing at nights (32F) and snow is a real possibility throughout April, but not typical. Snow flurries might pop up here or there. I planted Spanish rojas in both spots (same bulbs).

I do worry that I didn’t plant them deep enough in the planter, as I was low on dirt. I supplemented by scooping up some from my back yard, where my mom had planting plots set up that don’t get tons of use anymore, but I may not have added enough. The snow we just got was wet and heavy and that has been slowing melting so I do fear that maybe the planter could have been waterlogged for a bit.

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