What's on your mind? (2025) - good way to start... even if a bit early... :-)

Yes, I believe our teacher was on the … right side of history in pronouncing the ‘c’ like a ‘k,’ but I always thought it sounded awkward — barbarian that I am :wink:

“Veni, Vidi, Visa”

We came, we saw, we did some shopping…

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“De gustibus non est disputandum” would be a great motto for HO, just sayin’.

Not that I know of (she had a standard Midwestern US accent). But from old writings, academics are pretty sure Latin at that time had no Vee sound. Much like Deutsch has no “juh” J sound.

My 9th grade German teacher Herr Weilmünster gave us the simple way to remember the “v” and “w” sounds auf Deutsch by telling us that his VW here may be a (Vuh)Volks(Wuh)Wagon but in DE it’s a FolksVagon (both by pronunciation and in actuality).

The weird thing is that every time I’ve participated in a Volksmarsch, none of the organizers seem to know it’s Folksmarsch.


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That’s also what I was taught.

Interesting info in the rest of your comment, too, thanks!

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Have him switch to “in all seriousness”. That’s probably closer to his intent anyway, and with the only negative implication being that sometimes he’s silly instead of serious.

He’s silly far too often for that to work… plus it’s longer :smiley:

And anyway, we all have verbal tics/mannerisms. It’s what makes us so lovable :wink:

On BritBox I hear “If I’m being honest” which I often take to mean "If I’m being honest with myself. Sort of works when I think about it that way.

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those are semitic from proto-afroasiatic, not PIE

I couldn’t remember just how far PIE was supposed to have stretched. I have no formal linguistic training at all, just whatever I’ve gleaned from word-tube channels. It’s my understanding that PIE in particular is only a ‘theorized’ language, that is, if you trace things far enough back, you can see the space where PIE might have occupied, and guess at what some of those words might have been, but as it predates any known writing system, barring some remarkable discoveries, it will only EVER really be theoretical.

I’m even less sure about other proto-languages of different roots. I didn’t even know the name ‘Protoafroasiatic’. Does that imply that there are possible connections between the various sub-saharan languages, the semetic ones, and east asian ones like Chinese, Japanese, etc.?

I wonder if there’s a whole separate branch for the various Indiginous American languages, both in the north, middle, and south sections. It’s theorized that at least some of them got to where they were via the northern Asiatic land bridge, so… ???

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This is a decent starting point on language families.

(I spent a semester studying PIE which involved parsing based on vowel and consonant changes theorized. It was one of the most fun classes I took. PIE is the most heavily researched of the proto languages.)

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There’s a third pronunciation for Latin, at least in singing, and it’s German. How do I know this? By having gone to a couple of Bach Society B minor Mass concerts nearly 30 years ago. The musical director at the time demanded that the Latin be pronounced as Bach’s singers would have pronounced it - ie not classically and not ecclesiastically (Italian-ish). So a “ce” wouldn’t be pronounced “ke” or “che” but “tze” as in Mercedes. And vs to fs and so forth. The choir got it right because they’d rehearsed over and over; the soloists inevitably reverted to Italian pronunciation somewhere in the middle. I was amused, but I’ve never claimed to have a life.

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My dad taught my sister and me a few canons we could sing together while hiking Austria. Dona Nobis Pacem was pronounced the German (Latin) way, too.

Did I send this out before? Apologies if I did.
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My high school German teacher (her parents were German) had a little book called, I think, Canon Kanone. She taught us how to sing some of them (there were only 6 of us). One was Goethe’s text: Willst du immer weiter schweifen? Sieh, das Gute liegt so nah. Lerne nur das Glück ergreifen: Denn das Glück ist immer da. (then immer, immer da to fill out the musical line) In a minor key; I remember the melody, but can’t find it, or the book, anywhere. And we learned other songs, of course, like Ade zur guten Nacht. This was not a public school. :joy:

TBH I’ve never heard anything quite like the B Minor pronunciation since then.

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Ah, good ole Goetta :wink:

lol. :joy:

We learnt drinking songs instead of the classics.

Mein Hut, der hat drei ecken, drei ecken hat mein hut!

Und so weiter.

It’s weird but after this last several exchanges here, I recall more German than I have in years. I had 4 years in HS and was fluent and literate, but then never had chances to use it until late in my career when I barely recalled it.

There was a Chowhound in Toronto named Vinnie Vidimangi.

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Now, see, that’s perfectly intelligible. :slight_smile:

Engineering was a bit hard, but Latin, and all of my humanities and social sciences classes, were a sleeper breeze.