Vegetable garden planning, what will you plant this year?

Loose soil, patience and making sure you have a variety of fennel that bulbs. The only variety I have grown is Florence, which does bulb. Other varieties are great for seeds, fronds and stalks.

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It’s Florence that I have. Do you push the soil up around the stems as they grow?

Also, thoroughly impressed by your chilli growing. My jalapeƱos have had a good crop this year and I need to preserve some. Last year I tried the salted chilli approach that Fuchsia Dunlop suggests for thin walled chillies but I think the moisture level in the jalapeƱos was too much. They went mouldy. Do you have a simple pickling method you use?

No, I just ignore them until they do their thing. I used to swear at them a lot but it didn’t help…

I’ve done the Dunlop thing with Fresno peppers, I think if it molds there isn’t enough salt or they aren’t staying under the salt. It’s a tough balance to strike, though. Too salty isn’t the way you wanna go with those either.

I’ve tried several pickling recipes and most of them taste the same in the end, really. This recipe is different and great for jalapenos: http://leitesculinaria.com/82089/recipes-pickled-jalapeno-peppers.html

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I’ve seen Chervena Chuska seeds on several sites- I was hoping to grow them this year since you and several others have mentioned how good they are but I haven’t gotten seeds for them yet, either, so it may not happen this year. I jumped at the chance for Palmyra seeds since they’re rarer and therefore more important for me to grow out for the seed bank I contribute to. I also got them in a trade and didn’t have to pay for them so that was nice! They’re also a large red sweet so I’m hoping it fills in the place Chervena Chuska would have been in the lineup.

I understand if it’s too late to start seeds for your season but it’s worth checking a place or two (or calling) to see if they have any plant starts. Off to look up Palmyra now.

Its never too late here, we grow year 'round, the problem is space. I already have 122 pepper plants to plant out this weekend, 2 flats of 72 each coming out to the porch from under lights one potted up a size, a few dozen tomato plants that will spend 2 more weeks under lights and all of the eggplants, beans, tomatillos, herbs, okra, cucumbers, squashes and other veggies I’m growing!

The down side of growing a lot of ā€œspiceā€ or ā€œseasoningā€ peppers is that it takes several of each plant to make enough pods to dry and grind and fill jars with so there are 12 aleppo, 12 urfa biber, 12 maras, 12 szegedi 80, 12 piment d’espelette, 12 tap di corti, etc… and there will probably be at least a 2nd if not 3rd round of some of them like aleppo since we use so much of it and I’m trying to do spice jars full for Christmas gifts. Those peppers are this years priority.

And then there are the Slow Food Arc of Taste varieties like Hinklehatz and Jimmy Nardello that I try to keep growing so there is continually fresh seed, the seed bank seeds, the grow out seeds… as you can see I’ve taken on a whole lotta projects.

I can spare 4 or 5 Palmyra seeds. If you’re interested, PM me.

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I’m impressed with your collection! I really, really appreciate the offer but seed starting here is such a PITA that I just don’t want to deal with. Let me know how the Palmyra turn out. What do you like about Jimmy Nardello? That didn’t do anything for us, flavor-wise.

You’ve mentioned before that some of the varieties that are really great here aren’t so good there- you didn’t care for Alma either, if I recall correctly. Jimmy Nardello are intensely flavored and very sweet, they’re great as ā€œfrying peppersā€ like in sausage and peppers. I’m sure the climate difference is what does it. You’re East Coast with snow and lots of rain, right? I’m Southern California, inland a bit, in a very pepper hospitable climate. I’ve noticed in these drought years with less and less water that the peppers just keep getting better and better.

I’m sure climate has a lot to do with it, as does soil. Not to mention individual preference and tastebuds. Funny you mention drought because everything I’ve ever read about peppers is that they need an evenly moist, well-draining soil and enjoy humidity. I’m not east coast…we’re on Lake Erie just west of Cleveland. Some years a lot of rain, some not but our soil drains exceptionally well and when we’re not getting rain we water regularly and deeply. We get a great harvest of peppers (among other things), some just have better (to us) flavor and are sweeter (again, to us) than others.

My garden isnt big enough to grow fruit or vegetables. I do, however, grow edible herbs in amongst the ornamental plants. The criteria is that they must be herbs we use regularly in cooking, are perennial and, generally speaking , look good as a garden plant (mint excepted)

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I am guessing the soil where you are is more sandy? I try growing pepper and I have never succeeded in getting much yield at all with the puny plants, likely because of heavy clay soil where I am in Norcal. Except habanero last year, I got a bunch of them, which I have little use for because I am not able to handle that type of heat…

I have to ask: if you can’t eat them, why did you grow habanero? For family or friends?

It’s been in the 80s all week in So Cal so the heat compelled me to get a few things planted. Three pepper plants (jalapeƱo, serrano, and shishito), one zucchini, one crooked neck yellow squash, celery (never tried growing it beforehand), chives, chard, and basil. Fingers crossed these all do better than last year’s terrible waste of space tomatoes.

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I have to ask: if you can’t eat them, why did you grow habanero? For family or friends?
[/quote]Oh yes. I bought a six pack chili from a nursery. At the nursery, I noticed one of the six died so I grabbed one from another six pack near by, not knowing what chili it was. I didn’t get much chili from the other 5 (the 5 that I can handle), but the habanero (that I can’t handle) was prolific.

Thank you, I’ve Just made these - killer. First time I’ve used Sprite in a recipe. The liquid is delicious, I’m thinking of saving it to marinate chicken in after we’ve finished the jalapeƱos.

And here’s a photo of some of what we’ve grown. JalapeƱos, Serrano and a Thai chilli. All grown in pots on the balcony.

I’ll buy some more Thai chillies at the markets this weekend and do some of Fuchsia’s salted chillies to see us through the winter.

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Beautiful peppers! I always wait until the jalapenos get that corking on them so I know they’re hot!

Tomates, lots and lots of tomatoes. Various heirlooms, black cherries, etc.
Cucumbers
Herbs (baril, flat parsley, cliantro)
Hot peppers
Snap Peas
Melons

Speaking of which garden planning is on the to do list for this weekend. Does anyone have suggestions for a good online seed source?

http://www.highmowingseeds.com/home.php?xid=df638d95f4e2f89b0244f8a985bb2a4f
Reasonably priced and free shipping.

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First chilli seed has popped up into a seedling. Not sure how I am going to get enough to light to it, and hopefully its fellows, in this gloomy Uk winter. Just ordered beetroot, kohl rabi, carrot, and bean seeds.

Just to give you my take on the blue tomatoes, I got the original ones. The plant was tough as hell, soldiering through the horrendous hot dry summer, eventually set a bunch of fruit that took two months to ripen and had no flavor whatsoever. They were beautiful, though! I think they’ve been further hybridized, so look for a variety that’s described as having a good flavor, and read the reviews. I have a lot of respect for the indigo rose plant that I raised last summer, but the flavor was just really disappointing.