The Battle Over What to Tell Americans About Drinking (NYT)

Iceland has been working hard to maintain their position, but they may just be too healthy to remain in the top 50. They are at a respectable 58th, though.
I have only spent a few days in Iceland, but it seems like they enjoy talking more than they enjoy drinking. Contrast that to the Brits/Irish/Australians who seem to be able to master both.
LOL!

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Just took a closer look at the statistics.

UK in 22nd place my arse!

Yes, indeed take a closer look–the decennial changes are quite wide and suspect for many countries.

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There was a NYT article about it today as well.

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Curious why you called out Iceland?

Not having any data and talking as an armchair public health official who has travelled to Iceland nearly a dozen times, Iceland takes a very controlling approach to keep drinking at bay. Beer was outlawed until 1989 and even now, one can only buy alcohol at the duty-free shop on arrival or from the state-run Vinbudin shops which basically all close by 6 pm and are closed on Sundays. The bars, particularly in Reykjavik, are a different story and seem to cater to tourists behaving badly and we don’t spend much time in the capital. Of course, plenty of locals getting drunk.

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You can go to a pub, socialize, and drink something other than alcohol. Alcohol isn’t necessary for a fun night out.

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My dear Grandmother, who was Russian, taught me this (with the accent, of course): “You drink and you die, you don’t drink and still you die, so better drink and die”… As you say, life is short!

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No, it isn’t. I have a few friends that don’t drink and when I see them, I don’t drink either.
I’ve never been one to drink to excess, and I don’t see the attraction of going out “drinking”. I enjoy a good beer or well made cocktail in much the same way as I would a fine dessert or a rare steak.

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A usual there’s always a counterpoint although it may not get the same coverage.

“Two weeks earlier the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering and Medicine released a congressionally mandated review of the recent evidence on the health effects of moderate drinking, or up to one drink a day for women and two for men. Its more than 200 pages of findings run counter to Dr. Murthy’s 22-page report, though they got scant attention in the press.”

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/no-moderate-drinking-wont-give-you-cancer-surgeon-general-politicization-d0cdcbe6?st=ys1GtU&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

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I am glad to read the opinion from Alicia Finnley without any medical background and the same person who has pushed back on climate crisis as it doesn’t really exist

https://www.nationalacademies.org/en/news/2024/12/new-report-reviews-evidence-on-moderate-alcohol-consumption-and-health-impacts

Cite please.

Use your Google – she’s not shy, and usually partisan – in case you didn’t read to the end of the “counterpoint” you posted:

“But such advisories wouldn’t get headlines or advance the left’s goal of expanding government control over Americans. So instead he used his government pulpit to promote himself and progressive policies. Good riddance to him and his fellow health czars in the Biden administration.”

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Re her climate “work”, here’s one titled “Climate Change Obsession Is a Real Mental Disorder”

https://www.wsj.com/articles/climate-change-obsession-is-a-real-mental-disorder-carbon-kids-anxiety-hot-temps-df0050fa

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I expect the one making the claim to provide evidence.

Assume you mean Allysia Finley then. Good luck with that.

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There is quite a lot of her on climate crisis. Here is an interview on (surprise, surprise) Fox News

Or in the Wall Street Journal

https://www.wsj.com/articles/climate-change-obsession-is-a-real-mental-disorder-carbon-kids-anxiety-hot-temps-df0050fa?mod=article_inline

Cleanup in aisle one, @moderators.

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