That brings back memories. Here, it’s not legal for them to do so (to cut hair in a client’s house), but my barber lady I’ve had cutting my hair for the last 30+ years did exactly that when I amputated my foot and was laid up.
She refused any payment for haircuts the 6 months I was laid up. I think we’ve caught her up though, in the years since!
Not sure how the restaurants costs have anything to do with tipping.
Shes retired . And who really gives a ,
That salon sounds ridiculous. To be fair though, every salon I’ve ever frequented was a situation where whoever was cutting my hair was also washing it and doing my color. I do the cut and related work on my credit card and the tip to the stylist in cash. Mostly because I can’t write in a tip on the card in these places, which seems weird because restaurants.
My dad was tipping 20% post tax on restaurant meals out in the 1980s and 1990s. We almost only ever ate out at Chinese restaurants or fast food. I was under the impression my paternal grandparents tipped the same.
Agree, as I think are most people.
I’m reminded we’ve been down this rabbit hole many times before, most recently post the Feb Grub Street article:
Sure, big tippers like your folks/grandfolks, and like Ellen above, and I’m sure many others existed. But they (20% tippers) did not seem to be the norm in the 70s and 80s.
I’m just surprised because some of them were pretty frugal otherwise.
Well yes, that’s what I thought. 20% twenty five years ago was generous. It wasn’t like it was Vidal Sassoon or some well known establishment. Like I said once burned, twice shy.
This was interesting from the same platform: https://www.marketplace.org/2021/02/09/how-end-slavery-two-minimum-wages/
Hard time imagine they stayed in business long. They should have at least printed their list of demands before delivering service.
Again, that is what I thought. My first time at that salon and I thought I was going to treat myself. Other aquaintances had similar experiences, I figure I was the test rat. I just checked up on the place and it appears they’ve gone through several owners and ‘inventions’ in the quarter century since I was there. Covid shut them down for good and the last owners moved to Hawaii. The nice little building is now a teeny, tiny restaurant. Conveniently, I moved way far away and haven’t had any experience like that since. Live and learn.
I guess you can make a distinction between being frugal vs. being cheap/miserly, in the sense that being frugal may mean you’re don’t spend much on yourself, but may still be generous to others or in a charitable sense.
Or as I saw someone on a Redditt thread about tipping say,
Thank you for sharing, I did not know the origins.
Hard to believe how entrenched the practice still is given its roots.
The two tiered wage in the US has its roots in slavery like so many awful things (the electoral college, for example).
Thankfully I live in California where employees must be paid minimum wage by their employers regardless of their tips.
For this particular person, I wouldn’t be too surprised.
I’m going to remember this saying, because it’s so true.
I agree- my stylist is truly gifted and charges a lot. Sometimes somebody else washes my hair, but i’ll be damned if I’m giving a tip over the 20% I pay for a haircut, which I think is really spendy. My stylist is the owner, she can divvy up the 20% however she wants.
I think that’s a feature of a lot of people here, and I’m trying to figure out whether it’s personality, or the form of communication that comes in a “specialist” forum.
I’ll stop here before thinking out loud gets me into trouble.
What about “cakeage”?
Restaurants routinely will charge you for bringing your own cake for a celebration, or even a non-celebration.
