4am.
Bars can be open until 2am but during the week (too) many bars close around midnight
And live music has to stop when?
Berlin famously has no official closing time.
I think it varies by neighborhood and by venue. For instance, Forest Hills Stadium, outdoors in Queens, has to wrap up by 10pm. I have definitely seen bands go ON at 1am (not lately, of course, as I’m in bed by then), but midnight is probably the cutoff now, unless it’s in an industrial district (or no one’s checking up).
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I used to go to the Bottom Line, Academy of Music, until 1-4 am back in the days. Came out of a Hot Tuna concert when the sun was coming up. That, though was in the seventies
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Certainly in the jazz world there a quite a few places that have a midnight set and some with a jam session after that will go until 3:00 or later. The bigger venues like the garden or BAM have I think union stagehands and if the artists play later than what is in their contract there is a mechanism to force the artists to cover the additional costs incurred. I would imagine that the liquor or cabaret license determines how late places can have music along with input from the community board.
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lots of bars are still open until 3 or 4 a.m., but this was just live-music specific.
In our lovely stupid little berg nothing is open after 2:00 a.m., but most even shut down earlier - by 1 or 1:30. Live music can go as late as a bar/club is open., but i think they try to be done earlier.
Oh for the 70s’… Yeah, i’m sure that’s changed. We were told it’s because of the noise annoyance to complaining residents.
oh yeah, i’m sure - probably it’s just Manhattan I was told about.
The community boards, for sure, and also the volume of the music, because that’s what generates calls to 311. My experience with jazz is pretty limited (I used to go to Smalls back in the day, and they went very late), but decibel-wise, what you’d hear at Otto’s or Berlin or Parkside would probably drown out a jazz set.
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