New 2025-2030 Dietary Guidelines for Americans

i actually knew what it stands for, but the internet has a hard time with sarcasm at times.

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I expected more crudités on the new Pyramid.

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I wanted more ice cream on the pyramid.

It should be the base and the tip.

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gotta use the magic “/sarc” tool.

But it was clear enough to me given “… but I will have a drink”.

:grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

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THAT’S funny! :rofl:

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You just can’t make some of this shit up.

And if you did, people wouldn’t believe you.

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:rofl: Asparagus and salsa, together at last.

Up here in the Great White North, we had a similar type of video, where a somewhat out-of-touch politician, who lives in a tony neighbourhood, was filmed grocery shopping at a 24 hour convenience store that is often located underneath apartment buildings in downtown Toronto, that charges more for groceries than regular grocery stores. It’s the type of place I would only shop at in an emergency.

I remember needing some yellow jell-o and tea for a soft food diet, around the time the video came out. I ended up walking an extra mile in the winter, at 10 pm, because I couldn’t bring myself to pay what Rabba Foods (the overpriced convenience store) was charging for tea, and they didn’t have any yellow jell-o.

It was pretty clear she doesn’t do the grocery shopping in her family. LOL.

Apropos.

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Thank you! That is what I was trying to say in my comment about “the picture” above.

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Frankly with beef prices where they are now, seems like an industry friendly move to flip the pyramid….or just more incompetence and kookiness. Could be both. Neither inspire confidence.

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Sadly, the PowerPoint animation fetish is still a thing, based on some of the medical presentations I watched last year.

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It’s not just beef, but the emphasis on whole food (i.e., avoidance of UPF), one has to wonder whether there was any thought given to food affordability, if not availability.

There are many people, esp. people on SNAP (or WIC), who simply cannot find whole foods at affordable prices.

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Here’s a counterpoint to the new federal dietary guidelines published by HHS.

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This is a great roundup:

And this is also a summary of the latest in nutrition science: https://www.dietaryguidelines.gov/2025-advisory-committee-report

“the group of experts who spent two years preparing a report on the most up-to-date nutrition research to guide policymakers — told me that the science on saturated fat is so solid that there was “no reason to relitigate it …The science is there.”” (source)

100%

Marion Nestle sums it up well:

"The groups in America who eat most healthfully are educated; have decent jobs, money, and resources; have homes with functioning kitchens; can cook; live in safe neighborhoods with grocery stores; and have access to affordable health care. That’s what public health is about.

If the government leaves it to you to “do your own research” and fight the food system on your own, it is saying it has no responsibility for creating a food environment that can help you eat and enjoy real food.

It’s all on you."

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Someone, somewhere, will probably see if they can put together a diet that follows the guidelines on what someone on SNAP has to spend, and the time they have to shop and cook.

Actually, now that I look it up, someone is. “A cup of tea. Water. A banana. Rice and garbanzo beans. A few pieces of broccoli and some eggs. Choosing to live on $6.20 a day, the average daily amount provided to SNAP recipients through federal assistance, this is all [Connecticut] State Sen. Saud Anwar, co-chair of the state’s Public Health Committee, was able to purchase for a day’s worth of food.”

Living on $6.20 a Day

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Senator Anwar, the guinea pig in that article, presumably lives in a large city in Connecticut, with access to grocery stores that actually stock whole foods, including foods with lots of saturated fats.

Senator Anwar is not your typical recipient on SNAP, who most likely lives in a food desert (even if such desert is in a large metropolitan area) and probably does not have convenient access to transportation (either public or private) to procure the aforementioned whole foods with saturated fats.

I don’t mean any of this to demonize just this recent iteration of the US Dietary Guidelines. This has been a recurrent problem for all the past dietary guidelines (and no doubt future ones).

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Yep. The Food Pyramid is supposed to be about nutritional science, as documented, not imagined.

It was never intended to satisfy everyone’s preferences and biases.

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My point (and his, I think) was that even with access, he can’t manage to put together a decent day’s food.

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