A Lee 88 Chinese Restaurant [Waltham MA], Inner Mongolian Shumai Dumplings & First Rate Sichuan

What are your favorite dishes at Cha Yen? I have still not been there yet but hope to pick up carryout soon. Thanks for your posts on this new, exciting restaurant.


Last time I was there Jeemui/Manita made me this beef short rib massaman curry which was whew, so groundbreaking. It was like a beef bourguignon actually with small potatoes and carrots. But it didn’t have coconut curry because she personally does not like coconut milk, so it was just the deep red very concentrated flavor with fall off the bone goodness. She also brought out these new rollups which were novel and very good. But those are new specials and one is actually from the menu at Kala Thai Cookery in Boston, her other slightly different resto. She just wanted to show me that.

But on the regular menu, as it stands, Shrimp Donut is irresistible, all the apps are special in their own ways and something will wow you whether it’s the skill in execution or novelty of prep. The Sukothai noodles, most regulars will opt for egg noodle and duck, is probably a “signature” dish and no other place in Boston has dared to ape that in over 6 years. She prefers it with ground pork and smothered in chili flake herself. Over time, she cut back on the amount of sugar placed with the other condiments, which is probably a good move, more balanced. Overall, you will find every single ingredient is perfectly cooked and placed. So impressive. The Mushroom Larb is still as good as when I had it as a solo diner in an empty store with just her, me, preppers, 3 window bar seats and a kids IKEA table. It has the 4 different types of mushrooms even though she had to switch sourcing from Russo’s when they closed. (Russo’s was clearly the best source for Asian veggies.) I got through about a third way through the menu by eating 3 dishes 3 days in a row or something like that.

I’d start there and move around the menu. Her “standard” dishes she cannot move the needle terribly much on innovation, but everything is done with elan and bone crushing “wok hei”. Manita is petite but she moves a wok around harder and faster than any 60 year old Chinatown veteran with a cigarette hanging out of his mouth. The curries are more like a thicker coating instead a bowl of gravy, more sophisticated. Again she is not a fan of coconut milk.

Of course you have to sample the ice creams. Not an option not too. Try Thai Ice Tea flavor to start. Prices are modest and she could charge double in Boston or Cambridge and she knows it but she believes in feeding everyone. She made a very valiant stand during 2020 and kept her crew.

It’s basically my favorite resto in Boston area. She has novel execution, bold flavors, high end dining in a casual atmosphere and she’s extremely personable even if I can’t chit chat a lot with her like in the beginning.

I have no problem declaring Cha Yen one of Boston’s best restos in any category and probably among the best Thai restaurants in the USA. I have tried a dozen or so places in Queens, Manhattan and even though they bring in the various high horsepower northern styles, they just don’t have the torque Manita has. She just floors it and goessss. She’d be declared a genius in the city and have a Michelin star or Bib Gourmand, at least.


Cha Yen has been on my to-do list forever. Gotta get my $#!t together and get my butt over there.


Clearly you are a person of many discoveries, @anon6418899. Your detailed reporting is awesome!

I’ll be excited to try your finds when we’re getting out to restaurants again (stinkin’ virus, bah). It’s good to have finds we can look forward to in any case.


Thank you, I have been online since the 80’s on netnews and joined CH in the 90’s, I love getting the scoops!

I’ve eaten twice so far at Cafe Vanak in the former Seta Cafe next to Sophia’s Greek (yogurt) and it might be the best kabobs in the area right now, plus a healthy selection of real entrees like lamb shank on rice and others. I had pomegranate and walnut sauce on chicken, wowzers, like a Persian mole sauce. Watertown/Belmont boasts 4-5 Persian places now, plus Mediterranean Grill on Mass Ave in North Cambridge. Boston isn’t LA quality yet, but Vanak is approaching that level. Plus the accompanying market called Super Vanak lives up to it’s name. It isn’t a “ethnic market” or bodega kind of thing it is a full on mini super market with just about everything you would ever need to cook any Persian dish or any kind of food, replete with meats, dairy, dried goods, grains, teas, pickles, sweets, etc. Just not a huge selection of fresh veggies, but they smartly decided not to compete with nearby Arax on that front.

Just up a block you can see a Thai restaurant which is the original location of Gustazo, one of my favorite places now in Waltham and Cambridge. Their evolution is quite extraordinary from a purveyor of simple Cuban classics like Cuban Sandwiches to a full on fine dining experience with excellent cocktails. As flush as it is, I’d rate it almost as good as long time favs like Oleana, they have not forgotten their roots, even if they don’t have a traditional Cuban Sandwich anymore and the fancied up version of their Guacamole is not as tasty as how they originally did it, and how I make it at home now, with pineapple. Minor quibbles for a fine dining destination that has a non-stuffy easy going feel to it. Gustazo has managed to transcend their “ethnic” background to just being an excellent establishment. It is unfair to typecast them as a “cuban restaurant” in my opinion. This is very uncommon.


thank you! These are great suggestions. I hope to get there for carryout soon.

Both Cha Yen in Watertown and Kala Thai Cookery in Boston have carryout and delivery. Unfortunately in East Somerville I am outside of the delivery area for both. I had always been planning at trip to Cha Yen, Russo’s, and Arax Market for some day soon. I can still do 2 of the 3!

Well, all we have to do here is keep asking questions and you keep coming up with more gems! I heard about Vanak somewhere and it was on my list, too, along with stopping in at Sophia’s. I’ve often thought I should just move to Watertown. I was meaning to try Gustazo, too, pre pandemic.

Thanks again!

Our dear yum yum would concur.


yeah, I checked this out a few months back. Cool market, the people were super nice as well.

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We tried House Beef in Tinfoil, fiery, cuminey, and strangely comes in aluminum foil not tin.

The owner says the Jiang Nan sign is still up because the City of Waltham won’t let them change for another 1 or 2 months despite having already paid them $600. Outrageous! It’s really hurting their business I would have discovered it in November, I pass by enough. One guy ate alone and a few takeout orders went out from 445 to 615pm. One guy was told “Oh you order on Fantuan? No no call me instead, Fantuan is such a ripoff!” lol

They also have a WeChat group offering free dumplings if you order more than 40 bucks, but so far I haven’t seen those. Anyway I’m all about the shumai!


Miss eating out with her…


Good to know this place has not declined since the opening of the sister restaurant inBoston. I was afraid her attention would be diverted to the big city.


The 70/553 bus stops right there too.


Manita always innovates and pushes herself, she is an unstoppable force. She is in the same class of chef as any around here, Faison, Adams, Gilson, whomever you wanna think about and she’s still very young. Her creativity, formal western training and mastery of various techniques, plus innate iron-clad execution makes her an ideal contestant for one of those cooking contest tv shows.


So it turns out one place in NYC does offer Lamb Shumai. It happens to be a new location of a restaurant that closed last year, it was called Jiang Diner. The new place is called Jiang’s Kitchen, and it also offers halal western Chinese food and the Shumai, it looks pretty much the same. From my studies, A Lee 88’s is more authentic. Here’s a pic of Jiang’s version. I would venture to guess they are not rolling out their own skins. It doesn’t have the side creases and the tops are uniform thickness and doesn’t crown as much. They are also smaller as a consequence, they probably cannot obtain ready-made 5-6" wrappers.

I have seen restaurants start out making their own dough and wrappers for dumplings only to quit doing that and going to pre-made, so if you want to try it at A Lee 88, which is virtually identically to Inner Mongolian versions, I suggest getting over there soon.


Wow, this looks intriguing. Thanks for the tip!

Thanks! I had not heard that Jiang Nan had closed. A went once a few months ago, and there was one item on the whiteboard menu, which Sam Lipoff was kind enough to translate, that I really wanted to try: black pepper honey beef cubes. But they said they didn’t have it. I think these soup dumplings will be a good reason to get into Waltham again soon!


Waltham is shaping up to be the next Malden, in terms of Chinese resto offerings. There are enough expats at Brandeis maybe Bentley to support it, plus newly minted route 128 expat professionals. Aries does a pretty brisk business at the other end of Main St as well, for like a year and half, too. Not a fan of the new-ish Shangahi place though.

You could say this about any town with a top 200 college or university tho. Malden doesn’t really have that, it was just Quincy north, for the most part. I did try 1000 Miles down there, next to Kan Man. Not bad, hip distressed concrete decor, Sichuan food.

I have gotten an eating technique down for the Shumai at A Lee 88 meanwhile. Basically, take two out immediately, and re-position the remaining four so that they don’t touch the walls of the bamboo steamer or each other. This will minimize breakage/spillage. I tend to ask for a soup spoon and a soup bowl, even though Mongolians just dunk them in the chili sauce or vinegar. I do eat it like a XLB with my requested implements. Again, because they are large, they have a lot of energy out of the steamer and you can burn yourself, be careful. I like my food a bit risky!


Thanks so much for posting about this place! Circumstances force me to be a late adopter, especially as an illiterate in the relevant languages, so I’m happy to have you keep scooping everyone and really appreciate that you share your finds.

The Mongolian shumai look and sound amazing (and have sent me down yet another Internet rabbit-hole learning about them). And I always love hearing about another source of good Sichuan in greater Boston. Looking forward to getting there myself.

Also, Eater Boston finally caught up with your trail: https://boston.eater.com/22864782/boston-restaurant-openings-winter-2022


It was so fun to learn about them, and when I called my friend in Inner Mongolia, I was like, “HOW COME YOU NEVER TOLD ME?!” lol

Yea, I hit up eater via email, twitter, fb, post, wechat, signal… Hoping they feature Taste of Guizhou and A Lee 88 in more detail, they really need the exposure. It’s difficult, arduous, for immigrant restaurant owners to get the right marketing moves in and while it’s nice to see the latest new American fancy upscale preview being planned as the headline, there’s 10,000 Chinese immigrants slaving away at woks who will never ever get a single line of copy. Life’s not fair, even if #stopasianhate was a thing for 2 weeks. Oh well! I’d really love to freelance in an article for free, if they allow that kind of thing. I asked yelp why A Lee 88 isn’t on the “Hot and New” section, and they said it’s all bots. That hurts your grand opening, a lot. Taste of Guizhou, they didn’t have a listing! I made it myself.