I bought the 30 cm De Buyer Mineral B 30 cm carbon steel wok first.
A DISASTER !
It has a tiny tiny tiny tiny tiny flat bottom and is in my view useless as a wok and as a pan unless you have a dedicated wok burner and wok ring.
I didn’t sell it. I couldn’t. I gave it a way. I couldn’t charge people money for such a garbage wok with this design.
The Mauviel M’Steel wok is far better designed.
I love it so far. Highly recommended.
I just got around to watching the video in the OP - only to feel like the restaurant and view looked familiar. Sure enough it’s from a restaurant called Summer Palace at the Regent Hotel in Singapore
If you succeed in being able to use cleaning cycle heat for pizza making, be prepared for a mother board failure. Very high heat + digital electronics = eventual costly repairs.
No, you cannot reproduce the extremely high heat cooking conditions of a commercial stove or an outdoor cooker on the typical home stove. However, many home gas stoves produce pretty fine heat, and using a cheap carbon steel wok on one you can get pretty darned hot, certainly hot enough for good maillard reaction that can, with suitable oil and sauce sugars, lead to charring. I think that in addition to the messiness, a big limiting factor is that most home cooks get freaked out by using that much heat and dial it back too soon.
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Yeah, and you saw my messy vent hood thread. I’m wondering how much of that gunk was built up over the 12 years, or whether the bulk of it was actually from the past several months when I started seriously high-heat cooking, and flaming the oil vapors in the wok or other pans.
I take this to mean that the stove is built to withstand that kind of temp on occasion (maybe an annual self-clean) but even then only for so many cycles. But if I do it routinely (e.g., 1/month pizza) I’ll kill it much, much sooner? This makes sense.
I am half way joking about doing this, but only half way. I’ve got a bit of Tim The Toolman Taylor in me. I just don’t end up in the E.R. as much as he did.
But I guess it’d be silly to waste $4K on what amounts to a vanity experiment.
A frying pan or a saucier can absorb at least equal if not more heat than a wok at home stovetop. In fact, that is even true for many restaurant stove too. One can heat up a frying pan as burning red hot from a professional stove. Blacken a steak on a cast iron skillet is done at a high cooking temperature. Yet, it will be a challenge to make many stir fry dishes in a 12" cast iron skillet. I think the real argument for a wok is our ability to move foods very fast in it. Just this week I saute/stir fry some green peppers in my frying pan. It works, but it is just not as fast and easy to move the food around.
Bring up a cookware to high temperature is one aspect. Ability to quickly move them around (cook more evenly and prevent burning) in another thing. Fried rice is a classic example. These two videos are pretty good at illustrating this point, and I have shared at the ~1:00 min mark and 1:50 min mark, respectively.
I do have a wok. I have been cooking less stir fry and more simmering these days, but I still use a wok from time to time, especially for foods which I need to move very fast. For example, I would prefer to make scramble egg with tomatoes in a wok which is not a very high temperature cooking dish.
Don’t forget that high heat/ wok hei cooking at Chinese restaurants is a serious health hazard for the cooks- testicular cancer is a real professional hazard for them, that some wear heat shielding clothing to avoid this problem.
Home cooks don’t really want or need to fry their nuts…
That, and the shape is more conducive to tossing, especially in quantity.
Thermally, a wok on a high-output gas burner doesn’t need to hold much heat because it is instantly replenished, and even lifting the wok to toss doesn’t reduce heat very much. With Low-output or surface-only (induction and other electrics), there’s not enough heat to fully replicate gas, and lifting the pan to toss interrupts replenishment. The workarounds are choosing a flat bottom wok, sticking with the hand tools to “toss”, and resorting to a cast iron version…
Most are. But some of them now are built in such a way that you can easily cook with a wok without having to buy wok rings, etc. For example, the iron piece in the middle (above the fire) can be removed to accommodate the curved bottom of the wok.
This is why I have a small, but relatively undetermined, quest to make a wok ring for my Smokey Joe. I think I could approach the kind of heat in those kitchens, but with coal. Just gotta get the wok “booty” close enough to the coals, but not too close. It’ll take some dabblin’ I don’t have time for lately.